Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[dasva]

Theres no reason to let your tags rot. You can hold a max of 15 tags + 359 minutes (for the purpose of mathing, we'll say 16 tags). Its literally 4 days of not doing anything in SoA areas. I'm sure even your scrubby scrub is going to pop in atleast once every 3 days.

Well that's just tags though which was only a small part of what they were figuring and I'm probably not going to log on more than a couple of times in the next week or 2... hell I was busy enough doing other things that I've only used about 30 so far and have another 12 awaiting me while others finished 50 a few days ago right? I mean there is a ton in the game to do and not everyone has the time or desire to do more than a bit. That aside that wasn't what I was mostly referring to. Was referring to the people not really do much SoA... like I know a few people recently returned that haven't touched it at all. Like litterally haven't gotten acess to SoA areas. Also know a few that insist that the price is too and holding out for it to be as cheap as abyssea lol. I know some that basically just log in for salvage (insert other event) then log out. But largely I'm thinking of how they often count mules as active players alot of which wont be keeping up with the tags.

I mean it's pretty clear that they overestimated something since well not only are we stuck at 25% but they said so

[Damane]

Theres no reason to let your tags rot. You can hold a max of 15 tags + 359 minutes (for the purpose of mathing, we'll say 16 tags). Its literally 4 days of not doing anything in SoA areas. I'm sure even your scrubby scrub is going to pop in atleast once every 3 days.

umm... I have let 2 tags rot on my main char, simply because the assignments werent fun anymore after 1 week. Screw HELM, Screw walking to the end of the world for whatever reason, Screw Reives, shits boreing :/. Shit I needed to force myself today to even use 3 tags for a reive.

It all boils basicly down to the rewards, if I could buy skirmish parts with bayld I would be more motivated maybe. I actually enjoyed HELM in the early days in Ifrits or in mount zhayolm, but this fatigue system and the constant reive blocking the paths make this a tedious bitch-party for me. The Idea behind the Expansion and colonization and reives is nice, the execution is just not so sober.

[Kincard]

Yeah I've let maybe 2 or 3 tags rot myself. There's plenty of other things to do in the game even if you manage to log in every single day. Still do Salvage II about every day, for instance, and as stale as that can get, running a dungeon is still more fun than lagging to hell in front of a root because of 30 players containing 3 GEOs.

[grevenilvec75]

I havent let any tags rot, but It definitely feels like a chore having to log in and do coaliton assignments, so I just may start.

[Foldypaws]

This
If theres a distribution method of the items (if its deemed to obtain one) where 5% is matamata shell, 5% midium ore, 10% marble nugget, 20% iron sand, 20% sulfur, 40% flint stone, bumping marble nuggets to 40% means that everything else has to give up a collective 30%.

A) You don't know that it's two checks.

B) Even if it *is* two checks, they could still keep the rate of everything else the same. Say it's 10% on the first check, and then your rates on the second check. If they dropped everything to ~70% of what it was (so 3.5% on m. shell, m. ore, 14% on iron sand and sulfur, and 28% on flint stone in order to raise marble nugget to 37%) they could keep the rates on everything but marble nugget the same if they also changed the first check to ~14% instead of 10%.

Now, did they do this? Hell if I know, but they *could* have.

[Spira]

you can actually hold the equivalent of a weeks worth of tags and clear them off later.

since you don't actually have to clear the assignments you have accepted, you can accept 15 imprimatur worth of assignements at various coalitions and let the imprimatur build up, then clear them all off in 1 shot on a weekend.

of course, that would require u to log in midweek to accept assignments, but its definitely a flexible way to do things. you don't even have to decide too hard cos you can get the tags back if you don't like that assignment anymore

[Prothescar]

takes under 10 minutes to finish pretty much any of these things. not really much of a chore, that.

[Spira]

yeah.. in this regard i really like the imprimatur system.

way better in design than Assault ID tags and Campaign Ops Credits..

then again, all the tasks aren't particularly difficult or time consuming yet.. and certainly aren't BC based.

[Prothescar]

Yeah, I mean even one as dumb as running to a Morimar bivoauc takes only about 7 mins once you know the shortest paths.

[grevenilvec75]

Having to go kill a lair reive to rank up peacekeepers is a pain in the ass unless there's a BST there soloing the nest. If its a wasp one i can dual box it war + whm but the grasshopper ones will fuck you up.

I also dont have the patience to run out to some god forsaken place to deliver supplies. Its retarded that we cant use waypoints to get get close to the bivouac either.

I am pretty lazy though, so i dont really care if my tags rot.

[Taint]

you can actually hold the equivalent of a weeks worth of tags and clear them off later.

since you don't actually have to clear the assignments you have accepted, you can accept 15 imprimatur worth of assignements at various coalitions and let the imprimatur build up, then clear them all off in 1 shot on a weekend.

of course, that would require u to log in midweek to accept assignments, but its definitely a flexible way to do things. you don't even have to decide too hard cos you can get the tags back if you don't like that assignment anymore

^ This should be stickied somewhere. The is really zero reason for a tag to rot, just start another assisngment to use your tags and finish it later.

[Raffi_XI]

Thats what i do on my mule for the week. I go around and accept random coalition ops from random coalitions for 3 tags each. Come weekend (sat) I blow my tag load on the one coalition that i like that isn't getting the rank up message yet in hopes it matters. (usually mummers since i want to play more mini games)

[Kincard]

^ This should be stickied somewhere. The is really zero reason for a tag to rot, just start another assisngment to use your tags and finish it later.

I already knew about that. For me at least, it has less to do with the fact that I actually care whether my tags rot or not and more to do with the fact that I don't care enough to even bother walking to Adoulin. This is all-new content and it really shouldn't feel like something I "have to do".

They're promising to lower Wildskeeper Reive cost though, so I'll see where that lands things.

[Taint]

I already knew about that. For me at least, it has less to do with the fact that I actually care whether my tags rot or not and more to do with the fact that I don't care enough to even bother walking to Adoulin. This is all-new content and it really shouldn't feel like something I "have to do".

They're promising to lower Wildskeeper Reive cost though, so I'll see where that lands things.

Adoulin should be your HP

Fixes the walking part. Zero reason not to HP in Adoulin.

[NynJa]

Not to mention the fact that you KNOW progress is based on tag usage, you're gonna get left behind.

[Taim Meich]

You can actually store up to 33 (iirc) tags, plus the ones you're accumulating. If I've counted correctly, among all the initial ranks there's 11 different coalition assignments you can do. Putting 3 tags on each lets you store 33 tags. That, plus the 15 you can accumulate lets you wait up to 12 days worth of assignments without letting a single one go to waste.

[Sudox]

Adoulin should be your HP

Fixes the walking part. Zero reason not to HP in Adoulin.

The only reason my HP is still not in Adoulin is that you cannot get warp scrolls from SoA areas as far as I know.

[Taim Meich]

The only reason my HP is still not in Adoulin is that you cannot get warp scrolls from SoA areas as far as I know.

This, and ten times this. What use has a home point that you can't get the warp scrolls from?

[Cairthenn]

The good news is that no matter where you are, you can die very quickly. The addition of runes made Adoulin the most convenient place for transportation.

[Buffy]

The only obvious thing missing is Whitegate, and city > lure of the wildcat is pretty quick too.