Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Byrthnoth]

WHM one preventing Dispel could be . . . more useful than it was!

WAR 100% DA one sounded pretty awesome for zerging until I realized it likely won't stack with MS because they're both SP abilities. After that it's cool but kind of "eh, I already have a 50% DA rate!" I'm not opposed to doing more damage on WAR and I wonder how long it will last.

[Vriska]

Now just add more worthwhile UL spells, SE. All it's good for at the minute is backtobacktoback Terrors.

[vagus]

Even with these changes, top tier DD are still needed. Communication for lamp floors. To be honest, if you had major issues with NNI before i don't expect a huge increase in new people doing NNI.

[Eurell]

Cutting off 3 floors and making lamp floors faster is huge. Nvm aiming for 80 instead of 100. Anyone not 100% retarded will be able to do NNI just fine now (at least after a few runs getting used to the event).

[NynJa]

Dvali might be a pain in the ass without Embrava's regain. After Thundris Shriek, its HP might just stop dropping since all you're gonna do is get intimidated, but I'm already discussion potential changes with my group.

[Eurell]

Are you not gonna bring a SCH anyway? Regen V would still probably be awesome since people split up and kill shit solo. Just save Embrava for the last 5 minutes of the run.

[detlef]

WAR 100% DA one sounded pretty awesome for zerging until I realized it likely won't stack with MS because they're both SP abilities.

I thought that the abilities would be on separate timers. Is there any reason why you wouldn't be able to use both?

[Radec]

I thought that the abilities would be on separate timers. Is there any reason why you wouldn't be able to use both?

The assumption there is that they won't stack, using one cancels the other (see dia/bio, warcry/bloodrage/boost, etc)

[Kaisha]

I thought that the abilities would be on separate timers. Is there any reason why you wouldn't be able to use both?

I'm expecting SE to make the SPs overwrite each other.

[EDIT] Damnit, beat.

[Byrthnoth]

It could be interesting to make a 5-hit on War where you don't value DA gear though.

[Damane]

It could be interesting to make a 5-hit on War where you don't value DA gear though.

only possible with bravura or mythic I think, even then you are reaching just the haste cap. Its a possibility yeah. Ukon would have a difficult time for a 5 hit build maintaining caped haste due to its lower delay i think? Well nvm if you facter out all DA gear even ukon can reach it with a Store TP back piece. But to make a true 5 hit build you would sacrifice alot of WS dmg.

[fantasticdan]

Are you not gonna bring a SCH anyway? Regen V would still probably be awesome since people split up and kill shit solo. Just save Embrava for the last 5 minutes of the run.

It won't have regain anymore thou.

[Damane]

It won't have regain anymore thou.

the selling point of embrava during zergs was allways the haste not the regain. you still benefeit hugely from the regen and haste in nyzul, especially the regen for the last 5 min.

[Tarage]

That they're making the SMN 2hr better... is not something I was expecting.

[fantasticdan]

the selling point of embrava during zergs was allways the haste not the regain. you still benefeit hugely from the regen and haste in nyzul, especially the regen for the last 5 min.

Look at the discussion I was replying too.

[Damane]

That they're making the SMN 2hr better... is not something I was expecting.

honestly the refill MP is actually kind of needed, i mean the 2 hour would be pointless without any MP no? (and dont compare it to chainspell of RDM, because spells cost way less MP then BP and have no summoning involved)

[Eurell]

It won't have regain anymore thou.

Oh while intimidated, I get it now. I always played DRG so between the TP wing and Jumps, I never really had to worry about TP. It probably won't be too much of an issue though, and that's only if people plan on going for 100. I would probably just do 80 at this point.

[Byrthnoth]

At the moment, Imminent Strikes stacks with Mighty Strikes and lasts a minute.

Grand Pas is unchanged.

Asylum still only lasts 30 seconds.

[Damane]

At the moment, Imminent Strikes stacks with Mighty Strikes and lasts a minute.

Grand Pas is unchanged.

Asylum still only lasts 30 seconds.

wow, if they indeed leave this untouched imminent strikes + mighty strikes is kind of killer for zergs o.o

[Taim Meich]

WAR has a very powerful SP combination, that's going to be some damage. Is there any other job that will get such a boost? I guess BLM can go really crazy on nuking combining their two SPs, too.