Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Slycer]

Was mostly asking about the Delve section on the second page but nice to know about Skirmish segments. Second page also seemed to hinting at a special 11th FFXI anniversary event? Hope they bring it to the States even if its in CA.

He was saying that they are thinking about doing an event but that they would probably rather focus on in-game stuff so everyone can participate and no regions are excluded. They wanted to do something unique for FFXI's "lucky year," so they were throwing around different ideas like perhaps something that's celebrated on the 11th of every month throughout the year.

I have like a 90% translation that I can post I guess, it's so freaking long that I don't really want to go through it again to fix the parts I skipped. There's really no new information about RUN or GEO, all the talk about merits was just saying the jobs are basically in their infancy right now so people should look forward to JSE and merits before their true potential is available and that RUN is intended to be a very "busy" job when it tanks as far as activating abilities and stuff. As far as Delve goes, they said that there will be more Delve (and Skirmish) in the future obviously as more areas are released (they were jokingly referring to it as Delve 2), and the additions to Delve and Skirmish will be a higher "content level" (with rewards tweaked to match). They aren't sure if they will use the same Mweya Plasm and just make the point values way higher or have a different type of Plasm accumulation for the new Delve when it's added. Still, I find it hard to believe that the new Delve would totally outrank the current Delve, because I'd think they'd use the new boss weapons to fill in all of the gaps for the weapon types which currently don't have a boss weapon.

[Malithar]

Still, I find it hard to believe that the new Delve would totally outrank the current Delve, because I'd think they'd use the new boss weapons to fill in all of the gaps for the weapon types which currently don't have a boss weapon.

That's what I was thinking on it as well. Seems almost mistimed to of added Delve prior to all areas/Naakuals being added, as its just going to create so many different content tiers that new/returning players may have to drudge through to catch up, or be carried through with some of the newer tiers. Not to take a hint from WoW, but I always liked that their badge and emblem NPCs updated with the previous tiers content after each update, making it easier for people to catch up and be useful in the newest content.

Concerning Skirmish (since they mentioned using different currency and even a name for Delve 2..) hopefully Faithful Torsos and Legs are usable for it. Know a few who have been banking the pieces counting on it. If not, I could see the old zones falling behind in col. rate (not that they aren't already really..) due to the new zones offering the new pieces. With the revealing of their Skirmish entry item system as well, I wonder if all zones will be included in this "always a piece available somewhere" system, of they'd be separated. Wonder if they will add incentives to still be active in the old zones to keep a decent-high col. rate worthwhile and desirable, if they do end up separated or just not included in the old zones.

[dasva]

I dont think anyone really cares because trueflight fucking sucks, and its a crossbow.

Yeah that's probably why until someone crazy gets up the nerve to do real testing no one will know. If the snapshot is decent and there isn't a cap on snapshot it has real potential. Even more so if rng gets it's currently planned SP2 and it counts as snapshot

[grevenilvec75]

Could test it on the test server easily, couldn't you?

[dasva]

Possibly though depends on how well various 3rd pt software works on test server for testing

[noodles355]

Trueflight is good in abyssea, sadly rng isn't.

The snapshot on mythic would probably need to make you shoot at repeating xbow speed to be worth it.

[Asymptotic]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post429809

^ it's like a post from some sort of alternate universe

[Slycer]

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post429809

^ it's like a post from some sort of alternate universe

The tables have turned ohohohohoho~
Or at least they did for a few days. inb4 50 JP dev/community posts today that never get translated.

[Gokku]

On a cell phone can't open that link anyone willing to post what was said?

[Byrthnoth]

It is a JP post quoting Camate's May first post telling us to chill out because their terrible ideas are not finalized yet.

[Slycer]

The JP team was on vacation so some random JP poster took the NA team response and translated it into JP.

[detlef]

Is the original post by Matsui the one announcing the WS transfer idea? It had like 300 likes.

[Buffy]

No matsui post on RME today? Not good.

[grevenilvec75]

Hopefully they realized what a shitstorm this is causing and they are huddling up and making a real plan.

[Shenrien]

No matsui post on RME today? Not good.

Probably considered suicide and is getting a sign ready that reads "I'm sorry I'm not able to comment on the situation fully at this moment."

[Byrthnoth]

I suspect that they're waiting it out. The threads are losing steam and people are enjoying Delve while they wait for what the producers say. If I was them and this was really the direction I wanted to take the game in, I'd hold off until Friday and then I'd say something minimal like "We will allow RME users to trade their weapons for a key item that allows them to use the weapon skill (with full bonuses but no aftermath) using any weapon." By this point most people will have already decided that they are still playing in some capacity and it'll feel like a quasi-useful consolation prize.

I mean, these weapons would still be useful if they did that:
Relics: Mandau, Apocalypse, Annihilator, Yoichinoyumi, (Amano?)
Empyreans: Twashtar, Ukonvasara, Armageddon, Almace, Kannagi, Verethragna, (Gandiva?, Masamune?)
Mythics saved by WS bonus: Ryunohige, Terpsichore, Kenkonken, (Conqueror?)
Mythics that might be useful anyway: Yagrush, Burtgang, Aymur, Carnwenhan, (Death Penalty?)

Some people would quit, but you've validated ~half of the currently-useful weapons and saved most of the heavy hitters besides Ragnarok.

[TacoTaru]

He's made a point of saying Coin weapons along with Empyrean. If they do the WS idea, I have to assume they want to allow aftermaths because of this. If not, coin weapons are probably going to become expensive due to being able to hammer them out in an few days and have your WS back with an awesome weapon.

[jPuff]

There's no way that that team with that director could have formulated anything meaningfully new in the time since the last statement, unless you consider weaponskill transfer to be good/meaningful, in which case sure I guess they could have nailed down more details. But to double down on the WS thing as their direction this soon would basically be suicide. Whether it will be suicide if they are just waiting a few weeks to do it I guess is debatable, though no less disappointing.

[Damane]

There's no way that that team with that director could have formulated anything meaningfully new in the time since the last statement, unless you consider weaponskill transfer to be good/meaningful, in which case sure I guess they could have nailed down more details. But to double down on the WS thing as their direction this soon would basically be suicide. Whether it will be suicide if they are just waiting a few weeks to do it I guess is debatable, though no less disappointing.

excuse me, but matsui has so far delivered excellent work. He has changed alot of things around that people have asked for (point system in delve, augments for NQ legion items, etc etc.). I do think and believe he has a plan going into the right directions. Who knows, maybe they tweek the Relic/Mythic Weaponskills and some Empy weaponskills.

[jPuff]

RME and game balance as a whole aren't afterthoughts to a lot of people. And it's nice that Delve is good because it's literally the only event with any value now.