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[Jem]

For the sake of redundancy... no. There have been like 4 people now saying they have had difficulties too. Your personal experience and that of a few others clearly isn't the only thing it does. All 7 pops I've done have yet to have it start using exuv in less than 2 min. Telling people they should basically quit every single fight because the nm doesn't do the same thing yours did is silly. There is clearly something else besides just throw debuffs in general up. I'd guess the ws ones probably work better but convincing more than a couple of people my group that using ws early wont effect there ability to ws a couple of minutes down the line is difficult to say the least.

The quit it comment was to see if it was glitched or not. I did qualify it by saying directly afterwards that if it keeps happening it is something you are doing wrong.

Either you're not debuffing it enough or the outside and inside versions have different behaviour (all our fights are inside)

Usually the first TP move is something else and the second is Exuviation. It sometimes uses a different TP mid Exuviation spam if debuffs aren't reapplied quick enough (Seems to favor Proboscis) but this is rare.

EDIT: Debuffs we use are Dia, Elegy, Threnodies, Elegy, Slow, Para, Plague, Silence. Possibly Addle too. Pretty sure we haven't used helixes.

[Fake]

Either you're not debuffing it enough or the outside and inside versions have different behaviour (all our fights are inside)

It definitely isn't the latter, its exactly the same inside and out.

[Taint]

Will also recommend you filter out folks without the bivouacs (or clipper, I guess) for Hennetiel/Morimar. Spent two hours gathering for the Peiste last night because one guy didn't have any of the waypoints. He took too long to run through the opened Reives too, so we ended up trying to tractor him through but they closed up behind us as well, so we had to dump him. Same deal with the next guy who joined.

It's like Abyssea confluxes on steroids.

^ This - the only thing worst is Watercrafting....

[Damane]

For the sake of redundancy... no. There have been like 4 people now saying they have had difficulties too. Your personal experience and that of a few others clearly isn't the only thing it does. All 7 pops I've done have yet to have it start using exuv in less than 2 min. Telling people they should basically quit every single fight because the nm doesn't do the same thing yours did is silly. There is clearly something else besides just throw debuffs in general up. I'd guess the ws ones probably work better but convincing more than a couple of people my group that using ws early wont effect there ability to ws a couple of minutes down the line is difficult to say the least.

Side note one of the ones we did last night just seemed to stop using it which was a first. Like so far each pop once it started to used it almost exclusively but this one stopped. Now at first could probably blame it on people trying to figure out how to brd rotate when we got to almost 20 when they hadn't done so in forever or possibly ever and the other mages forgetting to continue... but even after that when I yelled at them all to continue it stayed like that and didn't get the last 3 exuv's for another 3 minutes after started spamming again wasting most of the brd rotation and probably what caused our loss that time.

speaking from my experience, we never had an issue with the moth, I was on sch and constantly stuck dia and slow on it while another sch did helix and some elemental debuff. Would use exuv constantly immidiatally

[Byrthnoth]

Only a 40 file update with the maintenance for me. I didn't bother re-installing .dat swaps after the last update. Not that I was really expecting it, but it doesn't look like they changed any new-weapon or RMEC stuff.

[TummieGaruda]

Only a 40 file update with the maintenance for me. I didn't bother re-installing .dat swaps after the last update. Not that I was really expecting it, but it doesn't look like they changed any new-weapon or RMEC stuff.

They removed RUN from Khloros Blade because apparently RUN having Scourge after performing X amount of WS was broken lol. But I understand, the job doesn't have access to relic so it makes sense.

[S N K]

They removed RUN from Khloros Blade because apparently RUN having Scourge after performing X amount of WS was broken lol. But I understand, the job doesn't have access to relic so it makes sense.

Seriously? >_> It's not like that Great Sword was that fucking good to begin with.

[Jem]

Not to mention they made a point of announcing RUN would get access to that weapon last update and there was even a JP forum post about it.

[lolwut]

The quit it comment was to see if it was glitched or not. I did qualify it by saying directly afterwards that if it keeps happening it is something you are doing wrong.

Either you're not debuffing it enough or the outside and inside versions have different behaviour (all our fights are inside)

Usually the first TP move is something else and the second is Exuviation. It sometimes uses a different TP mid Exuviation spam if debuffs aren't reapplied quick enough (Seems to favor Proboscis) but this is rare.

EDIT: Debuffs we use are Dia, Elegy, Threnodies, Elegy, Slow, Para, Plague, Silence. Possibly Addle too. Pretty sure we haven't used helixes.

I've also been dropping the blm elemental debuffs, poison, bio, blind, and bind that never sticks between rolls during our runs Jem. Not that it matters much, since I usually stop around 15 and we have no problem getting to 20 afterwards.

[Jem]

It's sad but I don't actually know who you are since your BG name is different! Yeah, bad me for not paying attention to what jobs people are on.

[Loziel]

so what was the 40 files about other than the sword update? cant find an update log anywhere

[Byrthnoth]

It is probably just these two things:
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...711#post430711
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...l=1#post430700


Notes: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...218#post431218

- The following items can now be sold on the auction house.
Protean Ring / Variable Ring

the fuck?

[grevenilvec75]

inb4 garrison99 required to defeat the delve-II bosses.

P.S.

Players will now be granted access to the boss after they have defeated all the notorious monsters within the fracture.

I fucking love the orwellian double speak that these guy phrase this shit in.

[Slycer]

* Players occasionally lost control of their character while fishing.

Ironic, considering that most of these players were not controlling their characters to begin with.

[Byrthnoth]

Ironic, considering that most of these players were not controlling their characters to begin with.

When I read that I thought "Hmm... I'm surprised I haven't seen this problem!" and then "Oh... setting the fish's HP to 0 and pulling probably worked anyway. lol"

[NynJa]

* If a player was KO’d while participating in a reive and then disconnected from the game, they couldn’t be raised until the reive is over.

I dont know if thats the bug i reported or not. The problem was losing tags and getting dickraped out of 95-100k bayld, not being fkn forced to HP (Onoz my 3k xp from HPing).

[Malithar]

I dont know if thats the bug i reported or not. The problem was losing tags and getting dickraped out of 95-100k bayld, not being fkn forced to HP (Onoz my 3k xp from HPing).

Maybe I'm remembering it wrong (never experienced it) but wasn't part of the problem that when you dced while dead, you lost your tags, thus losing all claim to a reward? If so, could see this fixing that, if the fix is actually making it so you keep your tags when logging back. Hopefully, since they had to fix losing credit when dcing or dying, you keep your credit when you die and dc.

[NynJa]

It could just be a translation problem, like everything the past year. It just seems odd to say it like that.

[Omnipotent]

Ironic, considering that most of these players were not controlling their characters to begin with.

This literally happened to me, I wasn't even botting, I was gonna fish up 1 more fish for GP and my fisherman glitched out and wouldn't stop running, no matter what I did. Had to force close my game.

[Obsidian]

I dunno. Kind of sounds more like the one I submitted. Although, it probably solves the problem anyway.

Edit: I only just noticed he was cracking an undead joke in there (about a Paladin, even). I feel like an ass for not noticing before and not acknowledging him.