Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Slycer]

Re Ligray's update on findings - if the LB quests are added, I'm sure that means the AF ones will be in as well. Unless they think that players somehow skipped levels 40-60 on their way to 70....

[dasva]

Yeah I've had that problem fishing or synthing. Oddly enough bots keep trying and for some reason you can see stuff happening from another character. Best part is when it doesn't let you warp someone either

[Therin]

I fucking love the orwellian double speak that these guy phrase this shit in.

How is that doublespeak? It's completely clear.

[dasva]

How is that doublespeak? It's completely clear.

Well see you by that wording nothing changed. What it should say is Players will now be granted access to the boss only after they have defeated all the notorious monsters within the fracture.

[grevenilvec75]

They are granting us the ability to challenge the bosses after we kill the NMs! How gracious of them!

[Kincard]

Matsui posts about content level and RME adjustments! Shitstorm inc.

[Slycer]

O gawd, lol

[Jem]

Also looks like there's some adjustments to BST/PUP/DRG/SMN as well as confirmation of RUN/GEO AF being added

[Kincard]

you must have missed this

Excalibur
D121 Delay233 Atk+60 Acc+20 Knights of Round
Additional Effect: Based on HP

Burtgang
D131 Delay264 Atk+20 Acc+20 Enmity+18
PDT-18% Enmity Reduction Down When Taking Damage
Atonement
Aftermath:Acc/Atk/OA2-3

Almace
D114 Delay224 Atk+20 Acc+20 DEX+20 Chant du Cygne
Aftermath:ODD

[Jem]

I did completely miss that! Obviously looking at a completely different post as there was no table or weapons mentioned anywhere.

EDIT: Oh wait, I see what I did. Stupid me. I hit the link for OP from Dev Tracker rather than the link to his latest post.

[TacoTaru]

I tried to read that, but google translate (while hilarious) was not helpful at all. Guess I'll wait for Slycer.

[Byrthnoth]

The Delve Boss sword is:
D130, 240 delay, STR+13, Acc+25, Atk+25, DA+3%

So they're basically caving to pressure.
* The proposed Excalibur would be a better mainhand than that sword everywhere due to HP procs, hidden effect procs, extra attack, etc., which far outweigh its slight DPS advantage.
* The proposed Almace would also probably beat it with AM1.
* The proposed Burtgang has gained a lot of ground on Excal in terms of DPS (ignoring extra hidden effects). Currently Excal has 13% better DPS. The proposed Excal has 5% better DPS. There may be some situations where this sword is useful for DDing, not just getting your face pushed in. Maintaining AM3 + CDC.

[Jem]

It's kinda disappointing that they have crumbled so quickly tbh. Whilst I fully expected it to happen eventually, I did not expect them to do it so quickly.

I mean depending on the timescale of implementation, there seems to be little point of shooting for the Delve Naakual weapons. A few will probably stick out I imagine (like GKT) but on the whole it looks like you're essentially shooting for the armor/accessories now.

I hope they at least require us to kill the Delve Naakuals to get the upgrades or something

[solracht]

I hope in the patch this is added they also introduce Delve 2 with 500dmg weapons

The butthurt would be so epic I'd tear up irl

[Kincard]

If Matsui wants his vision of situational weapons to come true, he'll need to adjust all the REMs in much deeper ways than simply giving them better D ratings and re-examine every single stat, because there's a huge imbalance in power amongst REM weapons.

Also Ryunohige curbstomping everything, Armageddon is still going to suck

[Toth]

Huh? Not everyone has these weapons. They should remain on top. The delve sword is great for jobs that cannot use the relics as well.

[Kincard]

Personally I agree that REM should remain on top only because the cost/reward ratio is completely out of whack, but Matsui apparently doesn't want that.

He said he wants weapons to be situational, which would only work if he goes back and examines how the playerbase uses each of these weapons. If all he's doing is adding a bunch of Damage rating and a flat 20 atk/acc to every single mythic and empyrean that's not trying to balance something, that's just adding a bunch of stats that look nice on a chart.

[Byrthnoth]

Some weapons like Twashtar will probably be replaced by Delve weapons, at least in the mainhand.

[Shenrien]

Not everyone has a R/E/M? Why are they even playing the game? It's not like R/E are difficult to obtain, you could argue mythic but yeah.

[Obsidian]

We want substantial RME buffs!

Wait why are they substantially buffing RME?

Apparently you can't make a post containing only quotes.