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  1. #4481
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    The coin weaps will be used to unlock the weaponskills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fantasticdan View Post
    Am I missing something? Why would sam get access to jishnu's?

    Depends how they work the unlock. But yeah probably not.

  3. #4483
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selamis View Post
    I wonder, with the change in base damage to the 99 versions, if they will scale backwards too to adjust for 95 and 90 versions or just have a crazy jump from 95 to new final plan at 99. Either way, time to realistically look at getting my Ukon from 90 to 99 now. Not thrilled about doing sword path again to get a 99 coin version of my Almace to use CDC, but there is no way I'm gonna upgrade both of those from 90 lol.
    Jesus fucking christ I hope they don't boost anything but 99 weapons. Way too many gimps out there with multiple 95 relics and not a single 99

  4. #4484
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fake View Post
    Jesus fucking christ I hope they don't boost anything but 99 weapons. Way too many gimps out there with multiple 95 relics and not a single 99

    +1

    Thats who the Augmented Delve weapons are made for.

  5. #4485
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    +1

    Thats who the Augmented Delve weapons are made for.
    That makes much more sense then weapons right now. For those that don't want the effort or cost of 99ing still can improve with delve. Want better put in the extra effort to 99. Keeps reward to effort/cost at least related so people will want one and others the other instead of just delve spam it is now. The WoE thing is just pure troll though. But funny

  6. #4486
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    +1

    Thats who the Augmented Delve weapons are made for.
    I dunno, what'd it get priced out to, 56 mil or something at 90k per airlixir? May as well break down and build a RE real quick with a price like that, specially since now we know in the future that with the collective QQ of thousands, RME's will be buffed if they're ever outdone again. XD Definately a hard sell since max aug'd weapons are already beat by the crafted/mega boss Naakual weapons.

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    Seriously hope they make it so augmented 99 R/E/M are hard-ish to obtain though. Or at the very least make you complete Delve Bosses.

    Like maybe a Plasm buyable item to upgrade them only after you have the Delve Boss KI

  8. #4488
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    So excite for koga fudo spam.

  9. #4489
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    Will there really be any reason to make 95-99+ emps going forward? Won't they always lose to relics/mythics with unlockable emp ws? The only exception I can think of is maybe blu since it can't use excal.

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    Why wouldn't there be a reason? Emps were powerful due to the ODD aftermath which isn't unlockable.

    They will probably lose to most mythics but mythics are equivilent to the worth of 2~ 99 emps/relics (not just in gil but the time it takes to complete assaults/tokens).

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    Its going to be a pain to make a 99 coin weapon to unlock emp WS, camping trial NMs all over again is gonna suck not to mention spamming WoE to get Dice/Residue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophannus View Post
    Its going to be a pain to make a 99 coin weapon to unlock emp WS, camping trial NMs all over again is gonna suck not to mention spamming WoE to get Dice/Residue


    Not really. WoE is a joke now and Dice/Lum drop in pouches. I just knocked out Shamash very quickly.

  13. #4493
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    While my lazy ass would like to see lv90 Emps get the same treatment as coin weapons for unlocking the WS, I don't mind making a coin weapon to 99 to get Smite on my relic. Verethragna can join my h2h museum either way

  14. #4494
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Ah basically you want them to be the undisputed king of pets?
    Considering its a pet job where the master is a wet paper bag, yeah it should be the king of pets.

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    I'd like to see the devs take their time to really think the weapon stats out before releasing it to us. I'm hoping that in the meantime they provide us with ample reason to continue to make and upgrade Delve weapons for the short run even if RME improvements are in store for us down the line.

  16. #4496
    HABS SUCK!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Not really. WoE is a joke now and Dice/Lum drop in pouches. I just knocked out Shamash very quickly.
    Seconding this
    Especially if you can multibox and double your loot.

  17. #4497
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    Wait, why wouldn't it be the king of pet jobs? I just summoned the fucking avatars of Fire, Lightning and FATE.

    You have a crab.

  18. #4498
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malithar View Post
    I dunno, what'd it get priced out to, 56 mil or something at 90k per airlixir? May as well break down and build a RE real quick with a price like that, specially since now we know in the future that with the collective QQ of thousands, RME's will be buffed if they're ever outdone again. XD Definately a hard sell since max aug'd weapons are already beat by the crafted/mega boss Naakual weapons.
    Yeah, that's certainly incentive to continue making REMs even if they don't end up being the absolute best.

    Look forward to 2018 when they release "The Great Seppuku of the Far East" and they add Great Swords with 300D, the only weapons I imagine they'd upgrade again are REMs.

    Why wouldn't there be a reason? Emps were powerful due to the ODD aftermath which isn't unlockable.
    If they make all Empyreans have lower D rating than Relics than most of them are going to be worse, especially considering how you'll be able to do their WS on any weapon.

  19. #4499
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indalecia View Post
    Wait, why wouldn't it be the king of pet jobs? I just summoned the fucking avatars of Fire, Lightning and FATE.

    You have a crab.
    Hey just cause I have crabs doesn't mean I shouldn't have good pets!

  20. #4500
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    Clean people don't have crabs! You dirty BSTs!

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