Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Slycer]

One thing I find interesting (and perhaps slightly scary for people who make money off ammunition) is that the price of these will be directly correlated with the plasm cost, as plasm has essentially established a value based on Airlixir cost. This could, and likely will, immediately deflate the market for all synthable ammunition in the game, dependent on the Plasm cost.

[Jem]

That is assuming the ammo isn't EX tagged. Could very well end up being like the ammo you get from Conquest Points.

I'm more interested if synth mats from Naakuals will be Plasm buyable. It seems unlikely but it would create a large difference in the availability of certain weapons if they aren't since the RA/EX Naak weapons sound like they will be buyable with plasm.

[Raffi_XI]

the way it sounded, its probably going to cost the same as a delve weapon (bullet / arrow) 30k for a quiver, and bolt case will be boss costs. Depending on how insane the dmg boost is, most will probably just macro in the new ammo for weaponskills and still TP off damascus / mantid. But who knows!

[Slycer]

That is assuming the ammo isn't EX tagged. Could very well end up being like the ammo you get from Conquest Points.

I feel like that would have been a relatively important point that they would have mentioned in the "other" section where they say you'll obtain it as a quiver, but yeah, that would make sense. I didn't really read it with any indication as far as point costs go, they just said you need to be able to buy the corresponding weapon type in order to buy the ammo. I think it would be kind of ridiculous if it cost the same as the weapon, but idk. I mean, if you equate 30,000 plasm to gil at the current Airlixir rate, that'd be what... 2.5 million gil per quiver?

[dasva]

Lol bolts higher content.... bolts with higher dmg then bullets maybe? Shut up and take my plasm


30K for a single quiver is crazy though. Even with the recycle update and af2 head and scavenge you can still easily fire a 2 hour event just wsing and meleeing for tp. 4-10 hours farming for a couple of hours shooting.... compared to melees that spend that much for something they can use for as long as they want to.

[Kincard]

So they want to kill a big moneymaker for alchemists and basically the only moneymaker for woodworkers? lol

oh well, who actually crafts anymore

[Jem]

Lol bolts higher content.... bolts with higher dmg then bullets maybe? Shut up and take my plasm

Bolts are higher content purely because the Crossbow comes from Delve Endboss (Level 20) rather than the T4/5 mobs (Level 14).

[dasva]

Bolts are higher content purely because the Crossbow comes from Delve Endboss (Level 20) rather than the T4/5 mobs (Level 14).

Yeah I know. Still funny

[Shenrien]

So they want to kill a big moneymaker for alchemists and basically the only moneymaker for woodworkers? lol

oh well, who actually crafts anymore

Only leathercrafters.

[pancakesandsex]

Since they will be dispensed as quivers, maybe it's a 1/1 usable special quiver that dispenses r/ex ammo for WS?

[arus2001]

So they want to kill a big moneymaker for alchemists and basically the only moneymaker for woodworkers? lol

oh well, who actually crafts anymore

Didn't you get the memo? Farming currency is FFXI's economy.

[Rocl]

I'm more interested if synth mats from Naakuals will be Plasm buyable. It seems unlikely but it would create a large difference in the availability of certain weapons if they aren't since the RA/EX Naak weapons sound like they will be buyable with plasm.

Forri-Porri has a "materials" option already, so I imagine at some point they will be.

edit: im retarded and just woke up, that's for airlixirs

that said, the Anomaly Expert has dialogue after the 2nd Delve clear about the Inventor's Guild having more things for sale, so I wouldn't rule it out

(The first clear looks like she don't do shit but be surprised, second clear the inventor's guild has shit, third clear she gives you something she found and will continue to give you stuff if you give her the 3 treasures [assumedly Naakual KI] again)

[Damane]

I highly doubt ammunition would cost 30k plasm. They didnt add recycle just to limit the amount of ammunition you get by putting in an arbitary ammount of plasm points needed. I could see 5k plasm points being a reasonable cost. Considering CORs need the ammunition too.

[Martel]

Also, there was a follow-up to the wyvern post saying that it wouldn't be added retroactively to all weapons, but it would be added retroactively to everything added since 3/27 and then moving forward for future weapons. They said that they would correspond to high "content level" polearms.

Now the question is, will post mythic adjustment Ryunohige(and I suppose relic/emp) get said effect? Would be quite sad for wyverns to actually get a decent dps boost(well, hoping it's decent) and then not get in with Ryu. <,<;;

[CoreyX]

I wish SE would remember RDM is capable of using daggers and has the same skill as sword. Every single dagger that has ever been added since 75 cap besides a very select few (twilight knife, etc) and especially anything in Adoulin has been completely unequipped by RDM. The only real option will be 99 Mandau once they update it. This goes for all jobs that occasionally use different weapons honestly. It's nice to have options, and I always thought sword/dagger was more fun than sword/sword, or even dagger/sword if you want to use dagger weaponskills for some reason. Plus a nice bonus of using a dagger offhand on RDM is that it has lower delay, and enspell damage favors low delay.
(Speaking of which, with the massive base damage increase, they really need to do something about enspells... either add tier 3 enspells that don't suck like the tier 2 ones, or reformulate the damage based on enhancing skill, during cast of course, unlike the retardation that is enspell 2. They kinda addressed this issue on PUP with the Volt Gun attachment being bumped up with the alternator. Maybe a RDM ammo or bow with enspell+40 or something?)

[Buffy]

Lol you made a rdm melee post.

[Tarage]

meleerdm

No.

[dasva]

Since they will be dispensed as quivers, maybe it's a 1/1 usable special quiver that dispenses r/ex ammo for WS?

Not sure if that would be better or worse then just a normal quiver

[Rocl]

No.

Talk to me about Summoner.

[pancakesandsex]

Not sure if that would be better or worse then just a normal quiver

Would you prefer single arrows with a .02% drop rate?