Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Jem]

I suppose for completionist sake, should throw in the craftable Bow/Gun since the bolt/xbow will require a Delve boss kill.

Echidna's Bow - 322 DMG
Donderbuss - 303 DMG
Speleogen Bow - 295 DMG
Surefire Arquebus - 292 DMG
Arma/Anni - 272 DMG
Illapa - 228 DMG
Yoichi - 200 DMG
Gastrophetes - 173 DMG

I wonder how high the DMG has to get for Coro to start outdoing Last Stand, guessing more is still needed. Although Last Stand is going to be pretty suicidal at those DMG ratings.

[Prothescar]

If anyone except me cares, there's a post on the JP forums about BLU physical spell D being adjusted in the next update but no new spells being added.

[Hitou]

No new spells makes me sad. Is the "adjustment" a nerf or a buff?

Edit: Just read Camate's post and it's still vague. Looks like new spells in 2 updates from now though.

[dasva]

Sorry, I should have been clearer. I meant in terms of performance improvement compared to now. The xbow isn't actually getting any DMG improvement.

Actually, that bolt is a head-scratcher unless it has an additional effect. I would assume it almost has to have one since Damascus Bolt is already higher DMG than it.

True the ammo update is skewed torwards gun... but the delve weapons also skewed yo bow/xbow. But this is normal since gun has always been about bullet dmg. Just sad that will me forever farming for delve ammo unless they make it really efficient. Like a stack of quivers for 3k. That said with all the increases in base dmg getting worried about magical ws getting outclassed similarly to how blu spells are. Wonder if there is a content level way of boosting them other than just making weapons with gobs of mab lol

[Kaisha]

No new spells makes me sad. Is the "adjustment" a nerf or a buff?

I would hope a buff, since physical spells are pretty much garbage outside of ye olde SA-Cannonball/Benthic/Vanity abuse on SoA NMs.

Would be nice to see folks use BLU in alliances again outside of triggers.

[Shadida]

In terms of DPS (which I'm aware isn't as big a deal for RNG/COR as it is for others, but gives some basis for comparison):

Echidna's : DMG:322, Delay:600, DPS:3220
Illapa: DMG:228, Delay:432, DPS:3167
Donderbuss: DMG:303, Delay:600, DPS:3030
Speleogen: DMG:295, Delay:600, DPS:2950
Surefire: DMG:292, Delay:600, DPS:2920
Arma/Anni: DMG:272, Delay:582, DPS:2804
Gastra: DMG:173, Delay:432, DPS:2403
Yoichi: DMG:200, Delay:524, DPS:2290

Some others you missed:

Death Penalty: DMG:260, Delay:480, DPS:3250 (not to mention crazy QDs)
Guglielmo's Bow: DMG:123, Delay:216, DPS:3417 (who needs holy bolts?)
Machine Crossbow: DMG:111, Delay:130, DPS:5123 (what if they unlock Wildfire?)

Let us all pray for rare/ex quivers that have a 1/1 enchantment on them. (Sorry alchemists and woodworkers!)

[dasva]

If anyone except me cares, there's a post on the JP forums about BLU physical spell D being adjusted in the next update but no new spells being added.

Should get new horribly overpowered compared to current spells like the weapons are that require plasm to learn lol.

[Prothescar]

Pretty certain they'll just add a *2~4 onto the existing D calc and call it a day. Would put us anywhere between an axe and a great katana in terms of D. Will make all physical blue magic pretty devastating for pre-adoulin content, and even some adoulin stuff. just need an attack adjustment now

[dasva]

And additional effect macc adjustment....

[arus2001]

Pretty certain they'll just add a *2~4 onto the existing D calc and call it a day. Would put us anywhere between an axe and a great katana in terms of D. Will make all physical blue magic pretty devastating for pre-adoulin content, and even some adoulin stuff. just need an attack adjustment now

Wouldn't put it past them for such a buff to work in Adoulin areas only.

[dasva]

Wouldn't put it past them for such a buff to work in Adoulin areas only.

Then delve weapons should be equippable in Adoulin onry! Oh god equipment only wearable in certain areas... content level capped areas!

[noodles355]

Bolt damage confuses me... Maybe it'll be a war/thf/rng bolt...?

[orinthia]

Bolt damage confuses me... Maybe it'll be a war/thf/rng bolt...?

Oh yes please, a strong thf bolt! Now just need a good xbow to go with it for last stand build!

/wakes up

[dasva]

Oh yes please, a strong thf bolt! Now just need a good xbow to go with it for last stand build!

/wakes up

Yeah 1 xbow since 75... an octant or Ziska's Crossbow probably still better

[seiji]

Pretty certain they'll just add a *2~4 onto the existing D calc and call it a day. Would put us anywhere between an axe and a great katana in terms of D. Will make all physical blue magic pretty devastating for pre-adoulin content, and even some adoulin stuff. just need an attack adjustment now

add weapon damage somewhere in spell damage calc, this way they won't have to fix it again after they add new weapons with 20%more dmg

[Ligray]

Looking over JP side Dev summary of the week, they're trying their best to give us Monstrosity and Mog Gardens for next version update.

[Toth]

Nothing else huh. That kind of scares me since I have pegged the next update in around a month and adding to the already huge amount of items coming with this patch is only going to make it take longer ; ;

[Draginhikari]

Kind of wondered when Monstrosity was going to happen since it had been so long since it had been brought back up.

[Kincard]

So we're getting:

-New Skirmish
-New Naakuals
-More Delve (Possibly along with nerfs to earlier Delve)
-Monstrosity
-Mog Gardens
-RUN/GEO AF

Sounding like a really big patch.

[Fwahm]

We're not getting new Delve, as far as we know.