Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Malithar]

dont gearswap.

Thats the biggest issue I've come across (outside of just being bad), and most don't even seem to know that you can do it. Can't really blame them, most MMOs have situational gear and such, but many don't allow you to (easily) switch gear on the fly to benefit from an entirely different set just to cast a spell, to WS, JA, etc.

[Julian]

Thats the biggest issue I've come across (outside of just being bad), and most don't even seem to know that you can do it. Can't really blame them, most MMOs have situational gear and such, but many don't allow you to (easily) switch gear on the fly to benefit from an entirely different set just to cast a spell, to WS, JA, etc.

The main problem is that vanilla FFXI doesn't allow for that, either. Without spellcast or windower scripts, you're forced to either make multiple macros for one action, or you're limited to only changing a few pieces of gear at a time.

Yes, some is better than nothing, but the system doesn't allow for as deep a customization that we all take for granted and enjoy.

[Carraway]

Salvage v2 and F80 NNI not easy enough? Or Abyssea before that even?

Meeble Burrows also holds a ton of options/sidegrades/upgrades/etc. for 6-man groups, and groups that can't handle NNI 80 clears can definitely handle at least some/most of the Burrows bosses. And there's Skirmish as well, which is the intended weapon upgrade content you do with your Adoulin AH weapons to prepare yourself for Delve.

[ronin sparthos]

Meebles really needs to drop the 20hr entry time considering recent events.

[dasva]

The main problem is that vanilla FFXI doesn't allow for that, either. Without spellcast or windower scripts, you're forced to either make multiple macros for one action, or you're limited to only changing a few pieces of gear at a time.

Yes, some is better than nothing, but the system doesn't allow for as deep a customization that we all take for granted and enjoy.

I'd go as far to say not even really as much as SE seems to want us to do. I mean look at all the incredibly 1 use peices they continually introduce. Clearly they want us to use it in those situations and yet it wouldn't be worth it most the time using normal maccros. It's another one of a few of SEs actions which make it seem like they want us to "cheat"

[arus2001]

Meebles really needs to drop the 20hr entry time considering recent events.

All the old content needs to drop its daily restrictions, really. Yes, even Dynamis.

[Prothescar]

After seeing the Impereteaur system (1 every 6 hrs) I have no idea what made them put meeble sacks on a 20hr cooldown. 4~6 hours (maybe even less) would have been great, especially given the progression system of meebles.

[dasva]

All the old content needs to drop its daily restrictions, really. Yes, even Dynamis.

Just kill the time limits! That would be funny farming dynamis for hours on end

[Carraway]

I imagine the time limit for Meeble Burrows made sense to them when the content was introduced as a way to "gate" progress, but yeah, there's not much of a reason for it now. But how long does it take them to go back and fix stuff like that? I think Daft Punk wrote a song about it.

It's not punishing at all if you're progressing from scratch (like in my case, where I'm a recently returned player), but once you want to farm particular bosses, you either have to cough up a silly amount of gil (given the reported droprates) or redo way too much trivial shit. Not as bad if you don't need research marks at all and can convert them to sellable items, but still annoying.

[Therin]

The main problem is that vanilla FFXI doesn't allow for that, either. Without spellcast or windower scripts, you're forced to either make multiple macros for one action, or you're limited to only changing a few pieces of gear at a time.

Yes, some is better than nothing, but the system doesn't allow for as deep a customization that we all take for granted and enjoy.

Have done everything in the game short of the new Delve bosses (we'll have those clear soon though) and I have never used anything but basic FFXI macros... Totally not a necessity.

[NynJa]

Just because you're not using it, doesnt mean the other 17 people in your alliance are following suit.

[Malithar]

Have done everything in the game short of the new Delve bosses (we'll have those clear soon though) and I have never used anything but basic FFXI macros... Totally not a necessity.

Honestly curious by this. What do you do then? Do you weight your gear swaps, and only swap the 7 most influential pieces, or do you use multiple macros to swap to your sets? That was ultimately my reason for going to Windower scripts. Early on, its easy to make due when you've only got a few pieces worth subbing in, but as you build more, you hit a breaking point where one macro just isn't enough, then eventually two isn't even enough. By time I switched, I was using 5 macros simply to WS and switch back to my TP set.

[dasva]

Have done everything in the game short of the new Delve bosses (we'll have those clear soon though) and I have never used anything but basic FFXI macros... Totally not a necessity.

While yes you can do stuff without given the same gear, knowledge and abilities you will fall decently behind people who do use more. Either due to having to go thru several maccros and losing time doing that or possibly some misfiring trying to do it fast or you wont swap as much. And there have been times where some things have required that extra edge and chances are if you made it thru without it's because others were using

[Sho]

All the old content needs to drop its daily restrictions, really. Yes, even Dynamis.

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[Julian]

Have done everything in the game short of the new Delve bosses (we'll have those clear soon though) and I have never used anything but basic FFXI macros... Totally not a necessity.

No one ever said it's impossible, it's just incredibly user unfriendly. If you want to be firing 5+ macros a second like Avesta, then go for it. The normal person isn't going to do that, and that was the point.

[Dotsudoku]

Not to mention that aside from complicating the user experience, it's literally impossible to perform as optimally as you could be. The self imposed delays are slowing down your output over time-- and pretty dramatically, I'd wager

[macross]

dynamis woudl be horrible if no time limit. 24/7 packed camps?

[dasva]

dynamis woudl be horrible if no time limit. 24/7 packed camps?

Bots just killing the same thing over and over again lol. Everyone would have all relics in no time. Fights over popped nms. Oh the rage

[grevenilvec75]

Abyssea style fell cleave parties with mules stacking up currency.

Spoiler: show

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[arus2001]

Bots just killing the same thing over and over again lol. Everyone would have all relics in no time. Fights over popped nms. Oh the rage

Moving past the absurdity that everyone would have everything, let's not forget the cockblock that ADL will serve to many as well as the likely future Adoulin content tied to relic progression. People getting things to sub-Delve tier at a decent pace isn't a bad thing. Unless you (a generalization) are more the "mah memoriez!" type that demands everyone trudge through the same shit you did long after the fact. The alternative would be cutting relic costs to 1/5 their current value, which I'm sure would prompt its own tier of butthurt. The rest I'd just suspect people mad about a money maker drying up. Welcome to rusty caps, holy water, and basically anything else SE patched out of style over 11 years.