Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Chamaan]

Will this update squeeze an additional ~18 Attk/Acc out of my Alternator? Only time will tell. THIS SHALL BE THE SUMMER OF PUP

[pancakesandsex]

Woooo campaign skillups.

[Buffy]

Matsui explicity stated that battles he designs, are designed around specific job setups and not made for "every job can do it".

And so many people have so many different jobs at this point that it really shouldn't matter other than people complaining just to complain.

[Kaisha]

That targeting thing is actually a neat adjustment. I mean, I know most people use Distance plug-in either way, but it's long overdue and surprising that they are actually even doing anything at all.

Wait, where is this from? Not seeing it on either OF or your translated notes. As one of the few idiots who doesn't use windower, this'd be very handy.

[Selamis]

Woooo campaign skillups.

Just a few years late, lol. Most everyone that is serious about their jobs has capped skills, but still nice to have this back again, I guess for people that don't use/have regen atmas and use Abyssea

[Gwynplaine]

Wait, where is this from? Not seeing it on either OF or your translated notes. As one of the few idiots who doesn't use windower, this'd be very handy.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/34256

The color of the icon depicting spell, ability, ranged attack, and pet command subtargets will change depending on the distance between the PC and the main target.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/at...992321&thumb=1

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/at...992336&thumb=1

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/at...992343&thumb=1

[Kaisha]

Not exactly what I was hoping for, but I'll take it none the less just to better maintain that max-cast distance.

I'm assuming the yellow-icon version is for AoEs that cast from the user's position, like some BLU spells or GEO's -ra line of nukes? Description wasn't that clear.

Side note: Looks like they fixed the couple pixels of the sub-target arrow that gets clipped off on its right side.

[Fwahm]

blue = close, yellow = medium, red = far

[Damane]

And so many people have so many different jobs at this point that it really shouldn't matter other than people complaining just to complain.

yeah dont know what all the fuss is about, not like you need nowadays ages to get a job to 99. I think you can expect people to have nowadays 4-5 good - very well geared jobs, so I am sure one of the jobs fits the criteria for some NM fights.

[Toth]

Some nice stuff for GEO and I do hope the new SPs are coming this update. It's been too long..,.

[NynJa]

I dont understand this magic damage adjustment. I understand making it so its not all THUNDER THUNDER THUNDER ICE ICE ICE...I dont understand this:

		   MP Cost	INT+100 Damage
		Before	After	Before	After
Stone V		 222	 156	855	1200
Thunder V	 294	 306	1103	1300

Thunder V is double the MP cost from Stone V, for an extra 100 damage. Shit, Thunder 4 is also having its MP cost jacked up from its current value (213 from 171, 60 mp over Stone V), and is projected to do 300 less damage in the same INT+100 situation.

[Byrthnoth]

They are attempting to make it so that there is a trade off between mo efficiency and time efficiency. As you note, stone spells are now the most MP efficient. Thunder spells are the most time efficient. Which matters to you?

[fantasticdan]

That makes sense within a tier, but when stone/water/aero V cost less mp and do more damage than thunder IV, something is really out of whack.

[Karbuncle]

Look at how far the MNK's, including the Oatixur, were behind me last night with identical buffs. 30 Acc/Attack isn't going to make up for that big a gap and I even had to keep Seigan/Third Eye up for those fights.

For what its worth Jems DRK is near perfect with more spellcast/whatever macros than i can shake a stick at, and his MNK is... a good chunk Above Average at best... but a good couple pieces from best, same as my... average MNK. Though I'm pretty sure under equal buffs that last fight I beat him by ~6% with Rigor, we were both keeping up Utsusemi as well which i think offers a pretty penalty akin to Seigan over Hasso.

I think a MNK as good as your DRK might just keep up with you :O, Not when you get Senbaak though >_>?

[Darkmagi]

How would you say the quality of that MNK is? I keep up just fine with excellent DRKs thus far with rigors. I know the one mnk I saw who got the h2h seemed to have very questionable gear?

[Obsidian]

That makes sense within a tier, but when stone/water/aero V cost less mp and do more damage than thunder IV, something is really out of whack.

I don't see why tier V spells being better than tier IV spells is particularly far-fetched. If Stone V did less than Thunder IV people would just keep using Thunder IV and Stone/Water/Aero/Fire would continue to go unused.

[Foldypaws]

That makes sense within a tier, but when stone/water/aero V cost less mp and do more damage than thunder IV, something is really out of whack.

But take more time to cast.

In the time it takes to cast stone/water/aero V once, you could cast Thunder IV and two thirds of a Blizzard IV. Which would do more damage than any of the Vs.

Do you want more damage/time or more damage/MP ?

[fantasticdan]

I don't see why tier V spells being better than tier IV spells is particularly far-fetched. If Stone V did less than Thunder IV people would just keep using Thunder IV and Stone/Water/Aero/Fire would continue to go unused.

What? I didn't say it was a problem that tier V spells do more damage than tier IV, it's a problem that the high end tier IVs cost MORE MP while doing less damage.

The casting time differences don't seem very relevant when you're sitting on 70-80% recast reduction.

[Cream Soda]

One-handed Weapons
Main Weapons Pre-adjustment Post-adjustment
Attack (STR) 50% → 75%
Accuracy (DEX) 50% → 75%

Sub Weapons Pre-adjustment Post-adjustment
Accuracy (DEX) 50% → 75%
　

The way this was worded confuses me. Is it saying that if you're offhanding str it's not getting adjusted? or is this saying that only stats in weps are getting boosted?

Or is it just all of your str/all of your dex that's getting boosted?

[Jem]

It's saying it only applies to your main hand. So like you get the attack and acc on your main hand but only the acc on your offhand. From all stats, not just the stats on your weapons.