Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Slycer]

Too bad it doesn't get access to melee gear to do that.

Clearly you're mistaken:

http://neogearzx.blogspot.com/2008/0...-130-more.html

(I know I posted this already but it's too good to only link once and seems way more appropriate this time....)

He had his haste gear, his evasion gear, and even his acc/atk gear, and this was only at 75.

[Treize Kordero]

The hand to hand correction seems interesting.. wonder what the math says about 62.5% on both hands.

[Toth]

Okay I understand where they are going with the artifact gear being 99 and their reasoning makes sense. There are just two concerns:

1. With the gear being 90+, that means GEO and RUNs have no way of enhancing their abilities until the late levels, while other jobs can start at 52.

2. How will relic and empyrean gear scale / work? We know their designs exists already so they are planned but now I wonder how they could have some type of a happy medium .

[grevenilvec75]

More like what was the point of having different elements if only three are worthwhile. Now all we need is elemental weakness to come back stronger and we are all set.

What's the point of having hard slash when resolution is the best Great Sword WS?

[Gokulo]

1. With the gear being 90+, that means GEO and RUNs have no way of enhancing their abilities until the late levels, while other jobs can start at 52.

As if that mattered anyway.

[Slycer]

2. How will relic and empyrean gear scale / work? We know their designs exists already so they are planned but now I wonder how they could have some type of a happy medium .

With AF being "item level" 105, they are obviously going back to the drawing board for relic/Empyrean for GEO and RUN. I wouldn't be surprised if they never get relic or Empyrean and ultimately get something else instead.

[Obsidian]

The hand to hand correction seems interesting.. wonder what the math says about 62.5% on both hands.

Makes more sense than arbitrarily having 25% more attack on one fist than the other, at least.

If we could get AM effects to be applied like this, I'd be pretty satisfied.

[Toth]

As if that mattered anyway.

Yeah that's true. Still, in leveling RUN the traditional way (stopped at 60 to wait for artifact but NOT ANYMORE), I would like some unique armor to stand out ><

[Seha]

For run and geo the other two jse sets could simply be 100% sidegrades. I mean for all jobs at the moment most relic and empy armour is used only as single ja pieces.

[Kyte]

Don't really like them deviating from the standard as it potentially means no Relic/Emp with the actual armor probably being better than both relative to other jobs in a single slot. Though, I guess I could still hope for one day getting some unified uber-piece for the others. :/

Yeah, we can't have those fucking RUNs getting too powerful.

[Chamaan]

Welcomed change concerning the Run/Geo AF. What I'm wondering now is when they'll introduce the Mythic weapon, so we can get a Nyzul WS for Run. Really hoping for something that's got a really nice effect (like magic damage with increased enmity). Damn update can't get here fast enough.

And wait, if the AF and quests are going to be geared up for 99, does that mean a new level 99 JSE sword for Run? Hopefully it'll be like 180dmg or something so it's worth using over the Delve weapon.

[Malithar]

And wait, if the AF and quests are going to be geared up for 99, does that mean a new level 99 JSE sword for Run? Hopefully it'll be like 180dmg or something so it's worth using over the Delve weapon.

Doubtful that it'll be better then Delve weapons considering the AF is listed as item lvl 105. The only comment they've made concerning content lvl was Matsui's lvl map ranging from 1-20, whether thats considered 101-120, who's to say. T4-5 Delve NMs fell at around 15 on that map I believe. Could have some nifty Run specific bonuses though that makes it useful.

[Chamaan]

Well Bereaver is entirely offense unless you take it Evasion path (I might end up doing that depending on the new merits and stats on AF), so yeah, lower base damage is fine if there are good solid buffs to the job. Like maybe Foil/Swordplay effect/duration and 3/tick refresh.

[Obsidian]

I'll put my money on the AF Greatsword allowing for an extra rune to be stored.

[Taim Meich]

A-ha! I knew it, I told y'all!

It made too much sense to have AF at 95-99 levels, given the current state of the game. And I'm really glad they did, this way they can actually make good pieces of equipment instead of (at most) something you blink into for a second in a JA.

[Malithar]

AF weapons never had unique models in the past, but with them moving to 99, think this'll change and we'll see a flood of vagina swords running around town?

[Gwynplaine]

A-ha! I knew it, I told y'all!

It made too much sense to have AF at 95-99 levels, given the current state of the game. And I'm really glad they did, this way they can actually make good pieces of equipment instead of (at most) something you blink into for a second in a JA.

I am liking this new director's willingness to go with common sense instead of tradition for the sake of tradition.

[zoopooscooper]

Thanks for linking that Slycer. Was a good read.

Also, no way H2H will get Double damage procs on both hands. Which is completely fair, since double damage can only proc on the first attack of an attack round for all relics. (At least this is the case for my Scythe)

[zoopooscooper]

Edit: cell phone lag double post.

[TummieGaruda]

Can someone explain this bit to me?

We are currently planning for the artifact armor to be approximately item level 105, but since it is currently being adjusted, this may change.

Item levels seem to be used a lot lately as they also said in another post that later gear will be around item level 125.