Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Eldelphia]

I dunno, I think Delve kinda killed the game somewhat. I lowman Salvage v.1 and v.2 with some friends, but outside of that, no one wants to do anything anymore. No Odin/Arch Odin, no Arch Omega, hardly any Voidwatch shouts anymore. Didn't really breathe life into the game it just switched people's focus away from multi events to just one.

I kinda agree with this actually. I'm not saying Delve is all bad but Delve has killed everything else. Like everyone else I wanted something new but I didn't expect them to try and reinstate larger group content having pretty much destroyed it. The game needed some I think but why on earth bring out Skirmish which is reasonable lowman content and then utterly crap all over it within 3 weeks? Seems weird to me.

All videogames are grindy to an extent, but without the missions/story/smaller events I find delve a little tiresome honestly. There's not an enomous point to exerting yourself in Colonization (although we all did it), gear from older events has either already been achieved or is obsolete and the thought of endless plasm grinding doesn't really do it for me. So I'm kinda waiting to see what happens next and to make up my mind whether to find a decent large group to join and just go with it or to quit/xiv/eso. Salvage v2 with a couple of friends and some PUG Delve is about it for me right now and I'm not sure that's worth paying for.

[noodles355]

This^ It's such a nice benefit being anywhere in the game and being notified on the price of things in peoples bazaar from people who go around checking others if they have guildwork running and you have something setup on your wanted list on ah.com, that and seeing shouts / yells from anywhere in the game is just another amazing benefit, hard to pass it up for such a cheap price.

Personally I love being able to check the AH price/availability and search bazaars for anything anywhere at any time in game. That absolutely sealed the deal for me. I couldn't go back to not having /ffxiah Item or /gw bazaars Item.

[Damane]

whats the point behind the abyssea bonus?

[grevenilvec75]

Personally I love being able to check the AH price/availability and search bazaars for anything anywhere at any time in game. That absolutely sealed the deal for me. I couldn't go back to not having /ffxiah Item or /gw bazaars Item.

How is it different from just going to ffxiah.com and checking there? Just convenience?

[pancakesandsex]

whats the point behind the abyssea bonus?

It looks like it's a jump start for people who haven't gotten into abyssea yet. Should be nice for new or returning players.

[Slycer]

whats the point behind the abyssea bonus?

Does seem kinda silly (who's still playing that never went through Abyssea?)... but whatever. They've got this thing going where they're trying to have events starting on the 11th of every month for the 11th anniversary (check out all the 11ths in the events announced today). I guess if you're new or just coming back it'll give you a jump start like pancakes said above. Wonder how much bonus cruor they'll give? Guessing like 50k or something.

[Kincard]

Yeah, returning players is about all I can come up with. They seem to be really against giving us bonuses for new content in the 11th anniversary things, which is kinda dumb considering this is only ever going to happen once.

[dannyl]

I actually read the abyssea extravaganza as 'free' time inside abyssea. as in no stones needed... but thats just as silly.

[Ophannus]

New GEO and RUN merits group1 and group 2 posted on JP dev tracker. Light the Slycer signal.

[Kincard]

"Interesting" isn't really the word I'd use for Shantotto, personally. "Amusing" would be more appropriate. Guess it depends on what you look for in a character. At the end of the day Shantotto's pretty one-dimensional, which is what I mean when I said XI doesn't really have any interesting characters. I'm more of a fan of pathos and XI has rarely offered that for me, which is why I'd like to see Aldo's story since that's probably the most obvious one that's never been shown. I guess some other ones off the top of my head is Star Sibyl/Karuha-Baruha and Lehko Habhoka.

An example of what a mean- one of the best cutscenes in the game for me was when Wolfgang told you the story about the boys and their shard of glass. Very simple and effective.

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RUN G1
Enchant Rune Res+2
Vallation MDef+1
Lunge Macc+3
Pflug Resist+1
Gambit Recast-10s

RUN G2
Trait: Inspire - Adds Cast Time Reduction to Vallation/Valiance (+10% per merit)
Trait: Straight Sword - Adds Subtle Blow to Swordplay (+5 per merit)
Ability: Battota(?) - Recast300s Duration90s Increases Parry Rate. Counters with Rune damage when parry. +4% Parry Rate per merit.
Ability: Rake(?) - Recast300s Duration30s Expend Runes to lower enemy Resistance. +3s per extra merit.

GEO G1
Full Circle MP Recover +5%
Ecliptic Attrition/Lasting Emanation recast-10s
Life Cycle Recast -10s
Blaze of Glory Recast -20s
Dematerialize Recast -20s

GEO G2
Trait: Cure Recant - Full Circle Restores HP. Adds 5% HP Recovery per extra merit.
Trait: Prime Zeal - Adds cast time reduction to Collimated Fervor, 10% per merit.
Ability: Mendharation(?) - Recast 300s Luopan Vanishes and restores HP to surrounding party. +5% cured per merit.
Ability: Radial Arcana - Recast 300s Luopan Vanishes and restores MP to surrounding party. +3% restored per merit.

Is it just me or do these merits look kinda...crummy?

[Toth]

New GEO and RUN merits group1 and group 2 posted on JP dev tracker. Light the Slycer signal.

From using google translate:

New GEO merit abilities are 5 minutes, one gives HP recovery to party when loupon is dismissed, one gives MP recovery. 5% per merit...?

Job traits are HP recovery when full circle is used and magic casting reduction when some other ability is used.

[Chamaan]

Google Translate is trying to tell me that one of Run's tier 2 merits is fucking Subtle Blow. UGH.

Only game changer for Run looks like the Parry/counter JA but it only has a 90s duration on a 5m recast with merits increasing potency instead of duration or recast. That is seriously not enough to bridge the Pld gap.

Geo's look decent. More MP from Full Circle, an up to 25% HP and an up to 15% MP restoration JAs on 5m timers.

[Jem]

For the most part, those merits look balls. Actually diminishes my hope of AF giving decent boosts to certain abilities.

[Kincard]

For the record the dev post talking about the Subtle Blow on the RUN G2 Trait is worded weird, it says something about "Largest (Maximum) value of Subtle Blow effect is increased by 5". I'm guessing it increases the subtle blow cap, but don't want to completely commit to that. Even if it could do that it is a useless bonus that is wasted on RUN. Gives me a headache they're giving all these things that should've been on NIN to RUN and now you have two useless "tank" jobs.

Parrying bonuses and breaking the subtle blow cap have been suggestions several times for NIN in the past. So to any of you angry RDMs out there...well, at least you're not alone, I guess? (At least your job is still marginally useful)

[Chamaan]

It says the Subtle Blow is on Swordplay though, and that JA already doesn't last long enough. It's incredibly sad but it's looking like a max 50% fast cast with Vallation/Valiance up is the most useful merit. Maybe I could spam fucking Stoneskin and blink with that up, I dunno. Unless that gets change it's that and Battousai or whatever the 90s duration stance is as the only worthwhile merits.

Fuck what are even their plans for Run if they didn't mean for tier 2 merits to buff the physical damage for Run? I'll wait for Slycer but it's looking like we need to start complaining about this right now.

[Taim Meich]

RUN tier 1 merits are a complete joke.

RUN tier 2... Well, the fast cast one looks pretty nice, and the parry one is potent, too, a pity the duration/recast.


Still, pretty lackluster.

[Kincard]

The other merits at least make some sense from a "RUN is a tank/mage killer" perspective, I guess, but the subtle blow is dumb. I really wish we could hear what Matsui is thinking in regards to job balance right now. RUN and NIN arn't competing against PLD. They're competing against Aegis/Ochain. Unless they plan on making Kannagi autocap evasion and RUN Mythic give them a full time Liement effect they should stop wasting their time with these tiny tweaks as if they even put a chink in either of those two shields.

Beyond that all 3 jobs are terrible at holding hate anyway so at least you can fix all three jobs at once there, if they ever plan on revisiting enmity.

[Slycer]

I'll translate now but it looks like you guys got it covered already. Why the hell are they posting shit so late? Are they really in the office making posts at like 11pm-midnight JST?

[Kincard]

It was actually posted at like 2 AM JST, lol. Maybe it's some poor intern.

Oh yeah, the very first response in that thread, btw:

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I lol'd. JPs are gonna have a bad morning.

[Chamaan]

Man I was hoping Google translate was wrong. This whole banana boat has gone tits skyward.

If that parry JA doesn't get lowered to a 2-3m recast at least, if not made a full time JA, then we're just going to have to jump ship here.