Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Whaleporn]

Incoming patch where SE makes Delve require a minimum ilvl just to get in, and you have to wear new gear over old gear just to get high enough to enter, whether it's better or not, lol.

Starting making room for a Delve entry gear set. ; ;

If gear scaling continues to a point where you don't have gear swaps except JAs (or swaps at all ala wow) gearscore is pretty handy for knowing if someone *CAN* meet DPS/Healing/Damage mitigation requirements on content. Most wow players who want to get shit done put a low but viable number for the content they want to do btw or they will sit there for hours. Of course, they can also do a check on blizzards site to see how many bosses that character has downed which isn't really as easily done for ffxi.

[Selamis]

Am I the only one that thinks showing an item level, is kind of useless and not needed?

[Kincard]

For the hardcore endgame players basically the only info you'll get out of it is what content level newer content is based on the ilevel (I'm guessing they won't bother telling us "this is content level 12" every time they make new stuff). For totally clueless players it at least provides some semblance of direction, I guess.

[Damane]

It probably won't happen, but even if they did they just need to make dungeons only check your weapon level. Weapons tend to grow a pretty linear rate; It was 85 empyreans shitting over 99 weapons a few months ago that was the anomaly.

^ this pritty much, I am happy they destroyed this and are going the route of only allowing REM 99 to be upgraded to be competetiv with delve weapons.

[Chamaan]

The item level thing is useful for exactly one thing: putting into context the dev comment that Run/Geo AF will be "level 105." That shit didn't make much sense, but now we have a measuring stick, and once the armor is actually out we'll never need it again. *dusts off his hands*

And the fuck? Battuta is actually the name they're going with for that merit? I thought this was going to be one of those things where the squiggles make no sense in English so they give it a real name for the rest of us. Dictionary is telling me it's a musical term, but it still looks super Babelfish wrong.

[Seha]

Battuta, among many things, also have a meaning in fencing. More precisely is the act of hitting the enemy's blade with your own in order to deflect it.

...so you parry to open the enemy's defense to counter attack. Like the ability says!

[Chamaan]

I repeated the word to myself about thirty times hoping it would lose all meaning and it wouldn't sound wrong anymore. Didn't work. I feel silly as hell saying it. Like a big dumb tugboat. Ba-TOOT-TOOT-a

[Gwynplaine]

The item level thing is useful for exactly one thing: putting into context the dev comment that Run/Geo AF will be "level 105." That shit didn't make much sense, but now we have a measuring stick, and once the armor is actually out we'll never need it again. *dusts off his hands*

I can think of one other thing it may be useful for. It could make it very easy to deduce which gear comes from which events shortly after .dat mining all the new gear. Drops from the same event will probably have the same/similar item levels.

[Fwahm]

I can think of one other thing it may be useful for. It could make it very easy to deduce which gear comes from which events shortly after .dat mining all the new gear. Drops from the same event will probably have the same/similar item levels.

It also lets SE describe future content with levels when announcing them, to give players an idea on how difficult they will be.

[Julian]

It also lets SE describe future content with levels when announcing them, to give players an idea on how difficult they will be.

Along with this, it allows for SE to "progress" with gear even though we're not getting any actual levels. A level 99 item doesn't necessarily beat a level 75 item, but a good level 99 item is more often than not better than a good level 75 item. Same thing as this stuff, except they're virtual levels.

Basically what I mean is, as we get harder and higher level content, we'll actually see better and better gear, instead of just constant side-grades with the occasional "holy shit this blows everything we used to have out of the water." They already started doing this with Adoulin, obviously, the levels just puts some perspective on the progression.

[Hitou]

I repeated the word to myself about thirty times hoping it would lose all meaning and it wouldn't sound wrong anymore. Didn't work. I feel silly as hell saying it. Like a big dumb tugboat. Ba-TOOT-TOOT-a

With such archaic words as "Imprimatur" "Cruor" and "Palimpsests" in this game are you reallly freaking out about yet another Italian word being used?

[Chamaan]

Toot toot.

[Fwahm]

But there's only one toot.

[Spira]

The RUN job basically uses a whole lot of fencing terms because its a fencer.. you don't notice it as much for stuff like Lunge cos it has common word meaning as well.
I do actually like how job abilities use naming to add another level of flavor.. just like how SCH terms are mostly latin and psychology concepts.

im annoyed by the need to introduce ilevel before other more useful stat indicators..
perhaps when they overhaul the UI for a windowed version (whenever that is coming), they'll make it a point to add stuff like acc/m.acc/eva to visible stats so that we don't have to second-guess and test that stuff so much...

even better would be some UI screen that tallies all your current stat effects.. D.A, Haste, whatever. probably never gonna happen tho.

[Draylo]

Item level is dumb

[Hitou]

Item level is weird on the test server. Most of the bayld gear doesn't have it despite being one of the examples. And random gear like Kokou's earring from meebles has a lvl and it's like 20 or something.

[noodles355]

Ba-TOOT-TOOT-a

Why would battuta be pronounced batututa

[Seha]

Bah-ttoo-ta. With accent on the u.

[orinthia]

I know I'm not the only one that thought of this.

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A BIB A TOOT

[Ligray]

Alot of follow-up posts today on magic adjustments, GEO/RUN AF by Mocchi, and item level. Where's Slycer?