Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[dasva]

Woot grasshoppers and yet another rabbit... there are other beast families that haven't been jugged

[Kincard]

Getting a crab too, lol. Carrie V2? Maybe we'll get one of those volcano-crab things this time.

Says that there will be a plasm jug too, but didn't specify what it'd be.

[Slycer]

Holy shit how many freaking posts?? I thought I was done and there are literally 14 more now....

[Draginhikari]

Devs are talkative today I guess.

[Byrthnoth]

One of the recent dev posts on the NA forums states that there will be purchasable level 106 weapons/armor with Bayld soon (Kariyeh body was level 100, Skirmish weapons are rated at level 105). I overlooked it before, but now I'm wondering what it's going to outdate.

[Taim Meich]

Considering Wildskeeper Reives are level 106 content, too, I'm starting to think that the Bayld I was accumulating to spam shark until I got the mask will probably go to the new Bayld equipment.

[Damane]

One of the recent dev posts on the NA forums states that there will be purchasable level 106 weapons/armor with Bayld soon (Kariyeh body was level 100, Skirmish weapons are rated at level 105). I overlooked it before, but now I'm wondering what it's going to outdate.

current balyd gear is pritty general item, I think upcomeing bayld item will be more specific. Most likely also with some accessoire items.

[dasva]

Yes but more importantly when will we get a storage slip for bayld gear?

[Slycer]

Translated everything. God that took forever.

[dasva]

Getting a crab too, lol. Carrie V2? Maybe we'll get one of those volcano-crab things this time.

Says that there will be a plasm jug too, but didn't specify what it'd be.

Uggg we already have 2 crabs as is too... as far as aquans go we've only used like 3/8 of the families not counting hnm types beast is like 4/10 I think. Where's my opo opo!?! Or my San d'Orian?

[Fwahm]

Why are people complaining about item levels and checking/exp?

/check is designed to determine how hard a mob would be for you to kill solo. If you're level 99, but can kill level 105 mobs with 2 weaponskills because your gear is level 120, then it's extremely misleading (and thus an ineffective system) for it to still say the mob is Incredibly Tough.

For experience, too; you're getting stronger and stronger, so mobs are getting weaker and weaker for their level. Why would killing a mob that you can defeat easily give >500 exp, just because they're technically higher level than you? If it's not a challenge, you shouldn't get higher than usual exp.

[fantasticdan]

Unless the grasshopper is a thf type, all 3 of those jugs will probably suck.

[dasva]

Why are people complaining about item levels and checking/exp?

/check is designed to determine how hard a mob would be for you to kill solo. If you're level 99, but can kill level 105 mobs with 2 weaponskills because your gear is level 120, then it's extremely misleading (and thus an ineffective system) for it to still say the mob is Incredibly Tough.

For experience, too; you're getting stronger and stronger, so mobs are getting weaker and weaker for their level. Why would killing a mob that you can defeat easily give >500 exp, just because they're technically higher level than you? If it's not a challenge, you shouldn't get higher than usual exp.

Why shouldn't be better geared not allow you to get xp faster? I mean hell there was a time when it seemed like some gearing was just to get merits faster lol

[Fwahm]

Why shouldn't be better geared not allow you to get xp faster? I mean hell there was a time when it seemed like some gearing was just to get merits faster lol

Because the gear is now so powerful, it's specifically compared to gaining more levels, and stated to be equivalent (at least, in theory). When you level up, your exp goes down, so when your gear levels up equivalently, your exp goes down as well.

[Taim Meich]

Why shouldn't be better geared not allow you to get xp faster? I mean hell there was a time when it seemed like some gearing was just to get merits faster lol

You fight mobs you get gear mobs are easier you get more exp.
You fight mobs you get levels mobs are easier you get more exp.

The progression through level is already penalized, now that the only possible progression is through gear, it's understandable that they're penalizing gained exp that way, too.


I see the future of merits now: joining naked to a FC party in abyssea to gain looooooooooots of exp thanks to that item level 0!

[smcmickle]

I see the future of merits now: joining naked to a FC party in abyssea to gain looooooooooots of exp thanks to that item level 0!

I know that wasn't really serious but, I can probably see people using their iLVL 99 gear (pre-seekers) and using the most powerful weapon available to them, so they don't have a high iLvl, then they can still do some serious damage. (at least for Abyssea exp parties).

[Prothescar]

I somehow very, very, very much doubt that the new way of calculating your "ultimate level" is going to ignore your actual level.

[Yugl]

The rating is based on your highest piece of gear too, so suddenly a mob is easy because you have a single piece of enhanced gear.

[Fwahm]

The rating is based on your highest piece of gear too, so suddenly a mob is easy because you have a single piece of enhanced gear.

For these criteria, it is not simply based on one piece of equipment. The weapons (main, sub, ranged), and armor (head, body, hands, legs, feet) are referenced, and the final level will be determined by a mechanism.

[Prothescar]

"by a mechanism"

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