Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Kaisha]

Maybe I'm too optimistic, but I'm envisioning some massive 320+ slot bank that upon opening it unloads your sack/satchel/locket/storage from memory and only has it and your inventory open. If we had to experience something like the delay when zoning while the normal inventory is loaded/unloaded, I think it'd be worth it. Shit, call it the Mog Vault and give it an animation of a massive door closing with the locking dial spinning to cover up the delay while standard inventory is loaded/unloaded lol.

Let's just hope whatever they do for memory managing to allow the extra storage in what I assume will be an MH-only setting (confined area, they can budget it on lolPS2 better), the PC side of thing will be "lol32mb RAM, we got 2gb+ to play with...", and we're not forced to deal with any waiting the PS2 release may possibly require.

Also, a lot of the spagetti-code stuff you're all mentioning is server-side lulzness, not client-server communication.

[dasva]

Assuming it can handle a decent amount of stuff I wouldn't but too unhappy with slips. Like say all the wkr, balyd gear, delve stuff. Hell even if you have to augment to store

[Shenrien]

let us store R15 gear and gear that has yet to be augmented, and all these new JSE backs and I'll be fine, the new wkr stuff is shared between just about every job that I play frequently so rarely does one or both pieces that I have ever go sit in my mog.

[Hashmalum]

No more PS2 limitations holding back adding more inventory space?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...544#post458544

I'm guessing that some of those "PS2 limitations" were always not so much "there absolutely isn't room at all for this" and more "well, if we use the space for this, we'll have nothing left for future expansion". But if they decide that PS2 is absolutely going to be sunsetted at a certain date, there's no longer any point in holding back the reserves. Of course, if they have in fact made that decision, they are holding it back for now to avoid JP riots. It's possible that even now they are trying to think of incentives for ditching the PS2 ala the Mog Satchel for security token deal.

[Helldemon]

So more porter slips, got it.

I took it to mean that it is a storage that you can only access from your mog house/nomad moogle/etc and you can only see what is in it when you have access to these things unlike safe/locker/storage now how you can view what is in them. Hell, they could do the same with storage/safe/locker if it cut down on load times or even a little lag in general. That would cut what it loads in half inventory wise for all the players in the game every time they zone. Though, would we even have access to it from a nomad moogle because then it would be loaded in that zone? It may be a mog house/mog gardens only type of storage.

[Spira]

i took it to mean another mog locker.. but then again i'm assuming they actually do have to load that information each time you zone because the game needs to know what items you actually have..

if its not regulated like porter slips i imagine that they'd need to place restrictions on what you can store lest people will be able to store duplicates of ra/ex items that aren't equipment, tho i can't really think of why that'd be gamebreaking. as long as you're not allowed to retrieve an item you already have in your inventory thats ra or ra/ex it should be fine.

[dasva]

That would be awesome. Being able to have 2 of the same ra/ex would probably make behemoths domain not quite so uber camped right now

[Chamaan]

Would be nice if they took the hint finally that people want better -DT% rings. A fairly simple to acquire -7% or -8% DT ring would be pretty damn great for people who have shit luck on the behemoth. Could even kick up the Defendi to like 12% to make current owners happy. They did say they wanted to add more damage reduction gear for all jobs.

[Spira]

That would be awesome. Being able to have 2 of the same ra/ex would probably make behemoths domain not quite so uber camped right now

lol i never knew it was..
what are the chances that people don't want behe tongue? high?

[Tarage]

Would be nice if they took the hint finally that people want better -DT% rings. A fairly simple to acquire -7% or -8% DT ring would be pretty damn great for people who have shit luck on the behemoth. Could even kick up the Defendi to like 12% to make current owners happy. They did say they wanted to add more damage reduction gear for all jobs.

If they do that everyone who spent millions on a DRing would bitch.

Same reason why they are panicking about RME. People can't understand the concept that older gear gets dated.

[shepardG]

Yeah, but in 90% of every other MMO, older gear never took 2 years to complete for some people, or 30+ person LS's to get one item over a 8 month period. I understand that's not what it takes now, but for the few peep's who had aegis/Excalibur back at 75, and stuck through the shitty times as well as the good, it would be nice to keep their efforts of the past relavent. I spent 8 years in college, and now my degree means shit, cause a newer degree came out, and companies only want people with that newer degree, even though that new degree is a 2 year associates.

[Ayn]

There's a joke in there about majoring in Claustrum..but my brain's too tired right now.

[fantasticdan]

You could extend the 'I spent all that time on X that would never happen an other MMO' argument to a lot of non-REM items. I mean it was harder for most players to get a ridill at 75, than it is a relic/emp at 99, should they update that to ilvl118 too? Hell, a lot of people probably put more time into random things like peacock amulet, aces helm, etc. than they might a modern relic lol.

[Kaisha]

but then again i'm assuming they actually do have to load that information each time you zone because the game needs to know what items you actually have..

Wouldn't that only be the server's concern though, not the client? It should already be referencing its own database to prevent issues such as the aforementioned duplicate ra/exs, and duping exploits.

[Chamaan]

If they do that everyone who spent millions on a DRing would bitch.

Same reason why they are panicking about RME. People can't understand the concept that older gear gets dated.

They need to suck it the fuck up. That mentality is holding the game back so much, and the worst part is that a lot (maybe a majority even) of the people that complain about the applecart throwing a wheel are the same people that spend all day complaining how much the game sucks. I hate this game but it must never change. They're just a bunch of old people voting down gay marriages to ruin it for the rest of us when all I want to do is make official my love for my new life partner, Ilevel 147 Ring With -25% Damage Taken. What're they going to do, quit? More people will come back to the game to see what's going on that will take their place. Everybody's worried about the game being on life support when what it needs is a transplant.

Everything I just said sounds way more grandiose than I meant it to be but man, people need to let this game be fun and exciting again.

Yeah, but in 90% of every other MMO, older gear never took 2 years to complete for some people, or 30+ person LS's to get one item over a 8 month period. I understand that's not what it takes now, but for the few peep's who had aegis/Excalibur back at 75, and stuck through the shitty times as well as the good, it would be nice to keep their efforts of the past relavent. I spent 8 years in college, and now my degree means shit, cause a newer degree came out, and companies only want people with that newer degree, even though that new degree is a 2 year associates.

Anyone with a serious career oriented degree is going to keep up their education. Going to conferences, taking classes, and going on training retreats. As technology and methodology in your field changes you have to change with it. If you let things pass you by then the only person who has outdated you out of a job is you. Those past efforts were relevant for so damn long it's ridiculous. And mind you, I'm talking rings here. You can wear two. You know what people who got a D. Ring would get if a new -8% DT taken ring came out? -18% DT.

I'm really not trying to be antagonistic or anything, but every conversation we've had about new gear since Adoulin came out (who am I kidding? Since Abyssea) has boiled down to "But my Claustrum..."

[Darkmagi]

My spiteful side really wants to see dring die if they keep RME outdated.

[grevenilvec75]

Really though you can wear two rings. So even if they added a ring better than d.ring its not like you'd toss it.

[Darkmagi]

I'll take my two 20% DT rings thanks.

[Damane]

Really though you can wear two rings. So even if they added a ring better than d.ring its not like you'd toss it.

^ I dont mind if they add another ring just as good as d.ring or better. Still can wear 2 rings! I actually would like that to happen, would make caping PDT/MDT in a hybrid set much easier on those "non important" slots!

[Kaisha]

It's SE, if they made something like a D.Ring or better, it'd be something stupid like making a set bonus of a PDT-15% ring, and a MDT-15% ring.

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Which I'd be game for. Can't be arsed to farm a d.ring, or get a perfect -6% PDT/MDT Dark ring