Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[NynJa]

I dont see how its a kick in the nuts. PLD's not getting used because its utility is moot. If your DD's are ripping hate because theyre trying to kill something in a timed environment, your PLD isnt holding hate. If youre in a situation where you NEED the shielded pld, its the best job out there. The problem is, the situation is rare. There arent any mobs out there that will rape a DD job for pulling hate, but not leave pld in a state where it needs to be curebombed. RDM's get fucked in the ass because other jobs can do their job better. If you need the enfeebler, you can have your geo, your whm, your sch, your blm do it, at pretty much the same reliability and potency.

So no, pld is not the new rdm.

[dasva]

Not sure how taking away a significant amount of block rate on a job where greatly enhanced physical survivability is the only thing going for it isn't a gimp but seems I'm a minority so meh. Good news it probably puts run up with pld on magic stuff assuming anyone will actually use a tank instead of just buffed hybrid dds and stun gunning

[dasva]

Anyone have a translation of fridays dev post?

[Slycer]

Anyone have a translation of fridays dev post?

Which one? The long Matsui post was translated both by me and officially.

[dasva]

er sorry I meant mondays by Fujito. The one with the pig butt

[NynJa]

Not sure how taking away a significant amount of block rate on a job where greatly enhanced physical survivability is the only thing going for it isn't a gimp but seems I'm a minority so meh. Good news it probably puts run up with pld on magic stuff assuming anyone will actually use a tank instead of just buffed hybrid dds and stun gunning

Missed my point, even gimping the blockrate of the delve boss shield (name eludes me) still leaves pld as the best at its job, its intended job. The fact its job is useless is a different problem altogether. It is not the same as rdm's problems because rdm's job can be done by other jobs as well, almost just as efficiently.

[Slycer]

I'll take another look at Monday's post, but I think it was mostly just some Fujito BS with no new information.

On another note unrelated to the shield stuff, I'm completely bewildered how the development team can come up with a new statistic to add to equipment (Magic Damage +) without actually testing it and understand the impact it will have on the damage spells deal. I mean... they really didn't know how little of an effect it would have? Did they even test it? Matsui's response regarding magic damage is borderline absurd.

[Seha]

I don't think the QA team they usually blame exists at all. WE are the QA team! xD

[Gwynplaine]

I'll take another look at Monday's post, but I think it was mostly just some Fujito BS with no new information.

On another note unrelated to the shield stuff, I'm completely bewildered how the development team can come up with a new statistic to add to equipment (Magic Damage +) without actually testing it and understand the impact it will have on the damage spells deal. I mean... they really didn't know how little of an effect it would have? Did they even test it? Matsui's response regarding magic damage is borderline absurd.

It is really becoming tedious with all of the apologizing and gear changes they keep turning around on. The quality of gear largely decides how players are going to use their time and energy. It can be excuseable when they change some aspect once (coming combat skill+ changes) but it's beginning to sour me that they seem so headless.

[grevenilvec75]

It's almost like they forgot the test server exists.

[dasva]

Missed my point, even gimping the blockrate of the delve boss shield (name eludes me) still leaves pld as the best at its job, its intended job. The fact its job is useless is a different problem altogether. It is not the same as rdm's problems because rdm's job can be done by other jobs as well, almost just as efficiently.

I got it I just disagree with it. If it was just killedar I wouldn't care but the translation said ochain on mobs past 110. Which by extension implies all shields and that it's only going to get worse. Or did I completely misread that

[Taim Meich]

I'll take another look at Monday's post, but I think it was mostly just some Fujito BS with no new information.

On another note unrelated to the shield stuff, I'm completely bewildered how the development team can come up with a new statistic to add to equipment (Magic Damage +) without actually testing it and understand the impact it will have on the damage spells deal. I mean... they really didn't know how little of an effect it would have? Did they even test it? Matsui's response regarding magic damage is borderline absurd.

And even then, being not that much of an impact on high tier nukes, it is heavily capped on lower tier nukes when it would actually give an interesting benefit... So, what's happening exactly? Did they cap it without knowing why? Did they cap it because they thought (without any testing at all) that it would be too powerful?

When you introduce a new stat, and it's already gimped on half the nukes on most weapons that use it... What will happen in the future? Will newer Magic Damage + weapons be inconsequential because we already hit the cap on even T5 nukes on the first few pieces of equipment that introduced it?

I'm totally puzzled.

[Tarage]

TBH I'm still bewildered that the staff I was going to make that would cost a lot of time and money/plasm that WAS better than the crafted staff is now suddenly WORSE than the staff. I get that crafters want to feel important but it seems silly that a crafted staff is now magically better than a plasm staff.

[dasva]

When you introduce a new stat, and it's already gimped on half the nukes on most weapons that use it... What will happen in the future? Will newer Magic Damage + weapons be inconsequential because we already hit the cap on even T5 nukes on the first few pieces of equipment that introduced it?

Hmm hadn't thought about that but your right depending on dint the antinian staff alone could cap you on magic dmg on some T5

[dasva]

TBH I'm still bewildered that the staff I was going to make that would cost a lot of time and money/plasm that WAS better than the crafted staff is now suddenly WORSE than the staff. I get that crafters want to feel important but it seems silly that a crafted staff is now magically better than a plasm staff.

Well less jobs can use it. But kinda makes sense with the plasm one being from t4/5 and the ingredient for crafted from megaboss. Same way seenbak is better than bereaver. I had always thought it wae odd that it was worse to begin with. Like they wanted us to just make senbaks

[Revati]

Anyone understand why it's ok to make rme weapons useless but if something even looks at ochain they're like NERFBAT!!!

[shepardG]

Anyone understand why it's ok to make rme weapons useless but if something even looks at ochain they're like NERFBAT!!!

Because the mechanics behind this 11 year old video game are fucking shit horrible.

That's it.... that's the bottom line. Everything stupid that occurs is because the game itself is utterly flawed from the foundation.
Everyone that still fuels the jalopy that is this game is dumb for putting up with it for so long (myself included) and when you ask questions like this, you already know the answer, you just want to feel that battered wife syndrome with your fellow other battered wives.
It's k though. We'll keep doing it. ^^
The friends we made, still make, free time we kill, real life we avoid, these are the things keeping this video game going. the dev's sure as fuck aren't. The mechanics sure as fuck aren't.
Brutal i know, this rant has been somewhat directed inward. lol but if ya'll don't feel this way, then i dunno , good on ya! lol

[dejet]

shep you act like your the first person to post that lol.

[shepardG]

i heart you dejet ^^

[dasva]

Anyone understand why it's ok to make rme weapons useless but if something even looks at ochain they're like NERFBAT!!!

They said something to the effect that making things that impinged upon r/e shield/instruments would force them to have to upgrade them like they are the weapons and they didn't want to have to go thru that trouble. Plus imagine a game in which you have to make the instruments better <.<. Or make the shields better in a way that isn't just maintaining current block rates on harder stuff or a little more def on them lol.