Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[grevenilvec75]

does it all worse than a gamepad maybe.

[NynJa]

Stopping to chat with a gamepad is fail. Keyboard does it all.

Im sorry wut? How do u stop moving to chat on a gamepad? Left hand on movement knob, right hand on keyboard.

How do you move on keyboard while typing? "/l he8y guys. 4any8888 one wan6t to do skir444888mish later?"

[Darkmagi]

Autorun and suckless

[NynJa]

Do that on gamepad too, dont have to hit esc and wipe ur text cuz ur changing direction lolz

[Kyreth]

RDM actually gets daggers? THF gets crossbows?

That's actually kinda nice. Upgrades like Acid -> Oxidant for the other traditional status bolts would be nice, too.

[dasva]

Do that on gamepad too, dont have to hit esc and wipe ur text cuz ur changing direction lolz

Stop typing so slow!

[Kaisha]

Would have preferred they added porter slip support to the MH first, but I'll take dbox also, will make muling in general less of a hassle.

[dasva]

Speaking of porter slips when the heck we giong to get more... having 20 new OP armor sets is kinda ewwww

[Slycer]

With all of the multiple path/random augments on the new stuff, they're never going to add slips for them. Sucks, but it is what it is. Maybe one for Naakual/Delve boss equip, but that's about all I could see happening.

[Kyte]

It's been a while since I've used the PS2 config, but don't you have to hit the arrows on the D-pad to go over to the macro you want and select it? I remember that being a bit slower than just hitting alt/ctrl+ a number, provided that you aren't just using 1 macro at a time.

[JSHidaka]

Well in the ~3 months or less I can stop using Oatixur... and undust my Annihilator...

With all of the multiple path/random augments on the new stuff, they're never going to add slips for them. Sucks, but it is what it is. Maybe one for Naakual/Delve boss equip, but that's about all I could see happening.

they can add Slips if they change the name of the item depeding the path... and the req. might be rank 15 to store them, like you can only store augmented Relic +2

[dasva]

With all of the multiple path/random augments on the new stuff, they're never going to add slips for them. Sucks, but it is what it is. Maybe one for Naakual/Delve boss equip, but that's about all I could see happening.

Random sure but 3 paths they could probably do it. I mean at worst they could do one slip for path a,b,c seperate

[dasva]

Well in the ~3 months or less I can stop using Oatixur... and undust my Annihilator...

What you talking bout Willis? People use anni right now... especially since delve ammo came out it's been rather boos. And being a gun I still predict a very small gains in base dmg though hopefully it will gain ilvl and +200 or so skill so can hit stuff without being uber buffed.

[JSHidaka]

What you talking bout Willis? People use anni right now... especially since delve ammo came out it's been rather boos. And being a gun I still predict a very small gains in base dmg though hopefully it will gain ilvl and +200 or so skill so can hit stuff without being uber buffed.

Daurdaubla/Gjar Bard or Rng Anni.. hmmm not a hard choice imo... Rng is one of my "have fun jobs"....

[Dotsudoku]

I have no idea why anyone would be using Annihilator right now. Ranged DPS is atrocious. If you insist upon playing RNG, you should be meleeing and using Donderbuss to Last Stand

But really, even if you do choose to shoot for TP, Annihilator isn't even in the running anymore

[Hirronimus]

Random sure but 3 paths they could probably do it. I mean at worst they could do one slip for path a,b,c seperate

Furthermore, Rank 15 is the final augment and can be considered static, similar to that of Relic+2 Augments. All the traditional sets have set augments as well. The only ones that contain varied augments are the old and new Skirmish weapons and armor. Also, Delve accessories can fall under same storable category as did Twilight, Sea Torques/Capes. It all comes down to how lazy SE is willing to be by giving lame excuses why they "cannot" do it.

[Helel]

I have no idea why anyone would be using Annihilator right now. Ranged DPS is atrocious. If you insist upon playing RNG, you should be meleeing and using Donderbuss to Last Stand

But really, even if you do choose to shoot for TP, Annihilator isn't even in the running anymore

You're playing RNG incorrectly if you can't match or exceed DPS of melees on RNG while shooting. With samurai roll and /SAM it takes no more than 2-3 shots to reach 100% TP, with each shot easily breaking 1k. Telling RNG to melee, and to not use velocity shot, is horrible advice. I do much more damage on RNG shooting than using a kraken club, and if I can't beat myself with a kraken club, no amount of meleeing is going to beat shooting for TP.

That said, I can only imagine you've played with some horrible RNGs, as I've very rarely come across anyone who actually knows how to play the job well. There's such a huge discrepancy between a mediocre RNG and a good RNG. You also need the correct buffs. Without SAM or tact roll, RNG DPS will drop significantly, as you'll require more shot rounds.

I do agree than annihilator is dead. I haven't used it since the combat skill update. Your best option now is donderbuss and /SAM (easy to cap pDIF without berserk now).

Edit: Also, you make it sound like people shouldn't be playing RNG, when it's clearly the best DD in ceizak.

[Kaisha]

They could at least let us dbox delve/skirmish2 equipment to mules. Swimming in too much shit right now with no inventory to sort it out.

It's been a while since I've used the PS2 config, but don't you have to hit the arrows on the D-pad to go over to the macro you want and select it? I remember that being a bit slower than just hitting alt/ctrl+ a number, provided that you aren't just using 1 macro at a time.

It is. One thing to note between controller and alt/ctrl is that the macro bar shows immediately on controller, where-as on PC it takes half a second, even though it'll still accept Ctrl/Alt+# before it shows.

They actually made it instant once for keyboard users also, and it broke the auto-run controls among other things. Thanks spaghetti!

[dasva]

I have no idea why anyone would be using Annihilator right now. Ranged DPS is atrocious. If you insist upon playing RNG, you should be meleeing and using Donderbuss to Last Stand

But really, even if you do choose to shoot for TP, Annihilator isn't even in the running anymore

Not everyone has groups that do melee setups for bosses (hell I'm having hard enough time finding people able to on my server with any setups).

Daurdaubla/Gjar Bard or Rng Anni.. hmmm not a hard choice imo... Rng is one of my "have fun jobs"....

oh I understand and then your oat mnk... but half of what I was saying is the relic update wont really change annis standing that much. If you would use it after the update you'd use it now generally... though in case of pimp brd vs rng that might change if enough people get enough weapons with enough +skill on it to allow less brds (assuming there is another brd in your group that can preform as well as you etc). Then again on the other hand having mythic weapons with the skill and base dmg of delve bosses anni would be kinda in the dust. Though rng mythic might be interesting...

[Dotsudoku]

That said, I can only imagine you've played with some horrible RNGs, as I've very rarely come across anyone who actually knows how to play the job well. There's such a huge discrepancy between a mediocre RNG and a good RNG. You also need the correct buffs. Without SAM or tact roll, RNG DPS will drop significantly, as you'll require more shot rounds.

Saying this twice a week doesn't make it any more accurate. Ranger is not hard, regardless of how you decide to accrue TP.

And yes, I'm sure when you give ranger buffs that optimize ranger and nobody but ranger, ranger is fantastic.