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  1. #7061
    Old Odin
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    A lot of people have "moved on" from 11 to 14 though, even most of my servers top dogs. But u cant expect people to pay 15, 30, or even 45 bucks to use the game as a chat service.
    noone is denying that, hence why we are moveing in a very bad direction, we have entered some negative spiral that is going downwards in rapid speed. Some people left for 14, leaving other people with noone to play with or nothign to do (no content), which agian leads to another bunch of people leaving for 14 or whatever, which again leaves other people with noone to play with nothing to do. There is no way to stop that unless there comes some big major content out that could bring some people back.

    i log from time to time into FFXI and do some assignments, but thats it... and my logins are gettin fewer and fewer. I log in and see 1 person in the Linkshell compared to 10-20 previously. If you log in and you have nothign to do, and not even someone to TALK to then you know a game is haveing serious population issues, i cant even find the people outside of the Linkshell I used to talk to. Sometimes I start thinking "why should I even bother loging in"

  2. #7062
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    I am a bit bored with 14 after finishing my two relics and the desire for relic gear is tampered because of the mythology cap. At least good content is online for both games soon. The wait just sucks

  3. #7063
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toth View Post
    I am a bit bored with 14 after finishing my two relics and the desire for relic gear is tampered because of the mythology cap. At least good content is online for both games soon. The wait just sucks
    Luckily for me I didnt burn through 14 so fast, my only job is 50 whm, relic not finished and I am slowly takeing craft up and lvling gladiator only via dungeons. Still no endgame free company

    to me it feels like atm I am being forced out of XI instead of leaving out of free will ._.

  4. #7064
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    Sounds kinda more like people just happened to have done more ffxi and blow thru new content faster than ff14 than it actually offering more to do or be more interesting. Which if it's the case it's going to end up like ffxi real fast and sounds like it already has to some

    Also does anyone else think these back to back to back to back log in campaigns are stupid?

  5. #7065
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    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    Sounds kinda more like people just happened to have done more ffxi and blow thru new content faster than ff14 than it actually offering more to do or be more interesting. Which if it's the case it's going to end up like ffxi real fast and sounds like it already has to some
    We'll have to see what the kind of content the large XIV team can churn out every content update before we can draw any real comparisons for its potential longevity with the folks who don't mind grinding the same instance 50 times for gear, versus XI's present lingering state.

    Also does anyone else think these back to back to back to back log in campaigns are stupid?
    Yes. It's just them clearly trying to maintain subscriptions, even if it's just folks who only log in for a second to get the points for that day. Give me a XI+XIV discount or something.

  6. #7066
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaisha View Post
    We'll have to see what the kind of content the large XIV team can churn out every content update before we can draw any real comparisons for its potential longevity with the folks who don't mind grinding the same instance 50 times for gear, versus XI's present lingering state.
    True though should realy give the hard mode and rem update a chance. Alot of the there is nothing to do was due to soas complete invalidation of old content. If old content serves a purpose once again there will be alot of stuff to do that actually feels like it's worth doing. It will be a race to see if the sheer volume of content 11 has can compete with clear focus the company is putting on 14. I do like the idea of discount for both though that would be awesome I'd actually play 14 maybe then

  7. #7067
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    They really, really need the November update to be good. New AF and a new tier of content copying stuff we all agree kinda sucks is not going to cut it. I don't think it'll kill the game or anything but everybody I know still playing is hanging by a thread and SE is going to lose a bunch of money in subs over the Winter if November doesn't deliver.

  8. #7068
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    They need a second skeleton crew for XI. Just one that can have fun going about old areas and adding new item-level based content. Sky/Sea are still plenty large to support a whole second tier of NM progression, for example.

  9. #7069
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    I wonder if FFXI's Dev team is larger or smaller than NASA's skeleton crew at the moment

  10. #7070
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    I still believe november and october updates should have been reversed.

  11. #7071
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    They're likely in the order that they are because SE isn't finished with the content for the November update.

  12. #7072
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    Maybe SE is trying to stagger 11 and 14 content so people will pay got both. New content for 11 comes out and ppl stop play, but keep paying for 14 for 4-5 weeks while they beat the new stuff and cap out gear. by then, new content for 14 is release and the player base flips games, and does the 14 content

  13. #7073
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    Both games are getting major content updates in november, so not exactly.

  14. #7074
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    Both games are getting major content updates in november, so not exactly.
    i would wait and not call it major, our last content update gave us zzzZZ snoozefest-skirmish 2.0, the hardmode stuff could be very good if implemented correctly and good tough!

  15. #7075
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    Same discussion every two pages, cool.

  16. #7076
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Same discussion every two pages, cool.
    no shit, maybe because there is nothing to do ingame?!

  17. #7077
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    Compared to skirmish update or october update, it would be considered major.

  18. #7078
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draylo View Post
    Same discussion every two pages, cool.
    Has there been anything else to talk about?!?

  19. #7079
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Has there been anything else to talk about?!?
    Most of old content being revalidated. More invent. More QQing. back to back to back to back flip flops on bst jugs. wtf log in campaign 4. Monstrosity gets even more awesome

  20. #7080
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    Has there been anything else to talk about?!?
    Besides the decline of FFXI ? No.

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