Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

**Chamaan** · 2012-11-18 23:02

Guard does proc on AoE TP moves. Nullifies that shit. Was even documented forever ago by Genome's guard testing. He had a screenshot of himself evading Spike Flail with a guard.

**TheDangerousDave** · 2012-11-19 12:21

What happens if you use the MNK SP and then Mantra? Useless I know, just curious

**NynJa** · 2012-11-19 12:32

Originally Posted by TheDangerousDave

What happens if you use the MNK SP and then Mantra? Useless I know, just curious

Considering all of the following dont stack, and can overwrite each other (a lesser potent effect will overwrite a stronger effect), including: Drain II, Body Boost, Mantra, etc, unless the mnk SP has its own HP boost, it might be in danger of being wiped via mantra.

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-11-19 12:41

There is a post on the OF that says it doesn't work with Mantra, I think. It also uses your base HP before %-based HP buffs.

**Alkar** · 2012-11-19 14:18

Originally Posted by Vriska

It better be at least as far back as Cait Sith, because if that shit sees the light of day and Cait Sith doesn't...

After like 2 years they have a model with auto-attack, no summoning/release animation and no BPs. Considering this model already existed in the game as an enemy and the animations were no different there you can tell how much they really care at this point.

**Obsidian** · 2012-11-19 20:32

Who the hell wants the MNK SP to add a static amount of HP? That's retarded. If they do that there's no way they'll have it add the ~2000 HP that most races would get.

**NynJa** · 2012-11-19 20:34

Some butthurt taru of course

**Cairthenn** · 2012-11-19 22:48

We've discovered that the new Red Mage SP2 may actually be doing something useful and will working to correct this.

**Ophannus** · 2012-11-19 23:50

I feel like Okipuit is placating me because his response has no corresponding JP post. Since 99% of the english community team posts are just regurgitated JP posts, I'm skeptical that my post is actually going to be translated and sent to the devs. I think it just might be a policy that 99% of their posts are translated directly every day from the JP forums, the 1% are threads with a certain threshold of 'Likes" that if over a certain # of Likes are achieved, they're forced to 'respond' to quell the hype.

**Kincard** · 2012-11-20 03:36

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on them posting in JP first simply because they can get the info to JP boards faster (That's a serious PR issue though, how do they not see that that can be misconstrued), but what really counts against them for me is that Camate always has to make new threads for info that has no applicable thread in English, yet this NEVER HAPPENS on the Japanese boards. If they don't give a shit what we think, maybe they should just say so so we can stop wasting our time on the official forums.

**pancakesandsex** · 2012-11-20 09:37

Originally Posted by Kincard

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on them posting in JP first simply because they can get the info to JP boards faster (That's a serious PR issue though, how do they not see that that can be misconstrued), but what really counts against them for me is that Camate always has to make new threads for info that has no applicable thread in English, yet this NEVER HAPPENS on the Japanese boards. If they don't give a shit what we think, maybe they should just say so so we can stop wasting our time on the official forums.

Someone semi-fluent should ask on the JP boards why this is and see if it gets an answer.

**Slycer** · 2012-11-20 10:00

THF, PLD, and BST.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/112...=1#post5484280

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-11-20 10:02

THF's is kind of lulzy. "We couldn't think of anything good for THF so we're going to let you steal Mighty Strikes, Invincible, or Hundred Fists. Do moar dynamis."

PLD's is probably a long Flash, which is tolerable but seems like it's not actually going to help them.

BSTs is okay, I guess? Spam Cactaur pets!

**Kincard** · 2012-11-20 10:28

The THF one will only be good if it forces SP steal in the event SP is active. It'd actually be pretty useful as defensive tool, just off the top of my head, you could steal Botulus's Chainspell (I know everyone fool's through it but it's just an example, nyeh).

I dunno how useful the BST one is. If you want to spam TP moves it means you'll have to call beast, dismiss it, then call it again. If your call beast timer is down then it can save you, which I guess is a slight improvement over eating your pet when it's almost dead to get a super stoneskin.

**Martel** · 2012-11-20 10:31

PLD supposed to eva tank now? I liked the old one better. At least it could deal some DMG. Christ, SE. wtf is this shit!?

**Obsidian** · 2012-11-20 10:41

Originally Posted by Martel

PLD supposed to eva tank now? I liked the old one better. At least it could deal some DMG. Christ, SE. wtf is this shit!?

It's par for the course, is what it is.

**InsaniacTHF** · 2012-11-20 10:59

I hope the THF SP always targets SPs if an SP is up. If I try to steal an SP and end up with protect I will not be amused. I would be more excited if it stole every single active buff on the target. Would make sandworm fights interesting.

**Kincard** · 2012-11-20 11:02

Assuming the sandworm isn't a dick and desiccations you first.

Even if he didn't I think he'd win that tug of war while your SP is on 1 hour cooldown. =P

**InsaniacTHF** · 2012-11-20 11:04

Well yeah but for 15 seconds you would be a god!

**Chocobunnies** · 2012-11-20 11:06

Originally Posted by Martel

PLD supposed to eva tank now? I liked the old one better. At least it could deal some DMG. Christ, SE. wtf is this shit!?

What it is, is their 15th revision of these new 2hrs.... because they're still far too useful.

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