Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[pchan]

Duplus grip drops from the auction house for half of the price of a marrow. This is legion only good gear. Play as monster will suck, will be limited by daily cockblock, will be unsuable in any event, will not reward anything. Chocoraising II, fellow NPC II, pankration II. It will follow the hunt system in the trashbasket together with MMM and other shit I forgot about.

[Kincard]

We get it, you do nothing but kill Arch Dynamis Lord and never actually play the damn game anymore. Let the rest of us play the game in peace.

[Jem]

Duplus grip drops from the auction house for half of the price of a marrow. This is legion only good gear. Play as monster will suck, will be limited by daily cockblock, will be usuable in any event, will not reward anything. Chocoraising II, fellow NPC II, pankration II. It will follow the hunt system in the trashbasket together with MMM and other shit I forgot about.

If you can find something like Duplus/Wrathwing/Fulad for sale then it's going to be between 25-50m+. Finding one for sale is a bigger problem than the gil though (which let's be honest is a joke to make). So you must have some ridiculously priced marrows on your server.

Regardless, there are more worthwhile drops than Duplus and not all of it is tradeable/sellable.

[Alkar]

SE stated that THF new SP wont steal other jobs new SP. It only works on the old SP.

I think it's not that they can't steal it but they probably won't bother to update monsters so they can use the new SPs at all (except future additions). They never did with Call Wyvern so I don't see them updating anything this time either.
Allowing THF to steal SPs even if they aren't in use would be the best idea imo, lots more options that way.

[NynJa]

Duplus grip drops from the auction house for half of the price of a marrow. This is legion only good gear. Play as monster will suck, will be limited by daily cockblock, will be usuable in any event, will not reward anything. Chocoraising II, fellow NPC II, pankration II. It will follow the hunt system in the trashbasket together with MMM and other shit I forgot about.

Why dont you play as a Mandragora or Goobbue and you can be a monk even as a monster, and toot how your monster choice is the best choice cuz its a mnk. lol

Allowing THF to steal SPs even if they aren't in use would be the best idea imo, lots more options that way.

Well I can already foresee the balance implications, of being able to annul a mobs 2hr before it even uses it, then again, mobs have been fucking with our JA timers for god knows how long.

[Alkar]

I don't think balance is the only issue here. All they have to do is update NMs with the new SPs so that THF have to choose (or better yet hope as we all know RNG is SE's best friend) one or the other.
But that also raises other issues like most SPs being useless for monsters anyway. Everything simply translates to "too much work" which is why nothing will be done.
The THF SP is a really good concept but as usual it's being implemented in a poor way.
I feel like this whole "new SP" deal is not going in a good direction with few exceptions, hopefully I'm wrong.

[dasva]

Drops don't seem to be evenly distributed, so Fulad is technically the rarest piece looking at DB. Duplus might compete (no track since Naraka's message is different), but I doubt that lol. Anyways, Legion has some side-grades and good Abj (Better than doing VW), but the problem with Abj is the price atm.

Ironically that price problem is largely due to how much the people doing vw have raised the synth mat prices lol

[Slycer]

One new dev post today regarding play as a monster. It's short and only has one relevant detail so I'm not fully translating. All they said was that on the PC side (which I assume they mean adventurers as opposed to monsters), PvP will be set to off by default and you'll have to go in and set it to on if you want to participate in battles against player monsters.

[Damane]

Why dont you play as a Mandragora or Goobbue and you can be a monk even as a monster, and toot how your monster choice is the best choice cuz its a mnk. lol



Well I can already foresee the balance implications, of being able to annul a mobs 2hr before it even uses it, then again, mobs have been fucking with our JA timers for god knows how long.

Some mobs can use it multiple times. The one that cant use it multiple times arent the dangerous ones.

[grevenilvec75]

THF SP2 will make maat fight easier.

[geno3302]

pchan

I thought we banned pchan...was that not across all boards? Because I think it should be across all boards.

I'm looking forward to play as a monster no matter how it is implemented. Unless somehow I don't get to turn into a monster and fight other monsters, I don't see how I wont like it.

None of these things, save for Pankration (they should have let us control the monsters like play as a monster), are as bad as you make them out to be.

[Tarage]

I thought we banned pchan...was that not across all boards? Because I think it should be across all boards.

I'm looking forward to play as a monster no matter how it is implemented. Unless somehow I don't get to turn into a monster and fight other monsters, I don't see how I wont like it.

None of these things, save for Pankration (they should have let us control the monsters like play as a monster), are as bad as you make them out to be.

We will never be rid of pchan. Like a fungus or an STD, it always comes back.

[Kyte]

I thought we banned pchan...was that not across all boards? Because I think it should be across all boards.

I'm looking forward to play as a monster no matter how it is implemented. Unless somehow I don't get to turn into a monster and fight other monsters, I don't see how I wont like it.

None of these things, save for Pankration (they should have let us control the monsters like play as a monster), are as bad as you make them out to be.

It's kind of silly to make a "pchan has no friends yet" sig when you yourself (and really, many other people including myself) don't have any friends listed on your BG profile either.

[pchan]

ffxiah Troll fest invaded BG.

[Cairthenn]

People haven't liked you since 07, I don't think it matters what websites they frequent.

[Tarage]

ffxiah Troll fest invaded BG.

It's cute that you think it's people from a specific site that don't like you, instead of everyone.

When are you going to take the fucking hint?

[noodles355]

He knows people don't like him, but he doesn't care.

Due to the amount of time he appears to invest in this game and it's community, I'm assuming it's either a big part, or the biggest part of his life. Of course I could be completely wrong about that.
However if that is the case then I wonder how it must feel to not be liked, respected, listened to or all of the above by 95% of the people who partake in the largest part of your life. It must get pretty lonely. Not only that, but it must be pretty horrible to know that even if you do try to help the community by proving sound information or testing, that it will always be met by at least some members with doubt or ridicule purely because it was you who did it.

Idk, but if I was in that position, I'd definitely be looking for some way to change it.

[geno3302]

ffxiah Troll fest invaded BG.

Don't think I've ever posted anything on FFXIAH, nor do I really read anything there. I started browsing BG quite a while ago, and created an account 18 days after you did. So STFU.

I haven't had time to test out the new 2hrs, is SAM decent? And is the damage bonus any good? Haven't read much on it in the test server thread.

[Slycer]

There's a rather long Matsui post up, and I'm working on translation now. Should be good, so stay tuned.

[Slycer]

Post is up now, take a read. His implication of item rewards moving to mostly points-based systems has me pretty excited about the future, if nothing else.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/112...=1#post5493296