Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Obsidian]

The patch that added a lot of monsters was the one that opened up Arrapago and Silver Sea. I doubt they added any progression (their development post still says you can't progress/pop NMs, etc.).

The dev post for the test server update, or one for the version update?

If they're adding Neo Salvage as it is on the test server I'm going to laugh hysterically.

[pchan]

Let's hope the delay on PD/embrava is going to be accompanied with actual content nerf.

[Slycer]

Meeble Adjustments (more sacks, you can view which expeditions you've undertaken), Neo-Salvage, and Bard Adjustments (AoE Prelude/Etude/Pianissimo buff).

It's possible, though unlikely, that the Meeble Burrows update may entail more than just the adjustments you mention. Could just be a poor translation, but citing the original text on POL: "December will bring wonder into areas both subterranean and submarine, with expansions and adjustments to Meeble Burrows and Salvage Content" they used "expansions" plural which would indicate that both MB and Salvage are receiving expansions. Remains to be seen, of course. I could see them adding a rank or two, but I don't know how that would work unless it was just treated separately from the first five ranks (since they are packaged with Umagrhk). They did mention at least once or twice in the past that it was always the plan to have more MB ranks.

[Byrthnoth]

That was what I expected from this update (actually, I expected only Meeble Burrows and thought Salvage would get pushed back to early '13), but now it looks like the opposite. No updates related to Meeble Burrows on the test server and only those two crappy notes.

I hope there's more ranks/etc., but I am also breathing normally.

[dannyl]

It's possible, though unlikely, that the Meeble Burrows update may entail more than just the adjustments you mention. Could just be a poor translation, but citing the original text on POL: "December will bring wonder into areas both subterranean and submarine, with expansions and adjustments to Meeble Burrows and Salvage Content" they used "expansions" plural which would indicate that both MB and Salvage are receiving expansions. Remains to be seen, of course. I could see them adding a rank or two, but I don't know how that would work unless it was just treated separately from the first five ranks (since they are packaged with Umagrhk). They did mention at least once or twice in the past that it was always the plan to have more MB ranks.

When I first read the dec version update announcement, I too read it as if they would expand the meebles by adding additional paths/ranks/exp's. They can potentially make "special" expeditions, (staying with the theme that this is all about researching and exploring) that aren't directly tied to the mega-boss or KI path. Would make for building grimoires interesting if they went towards this route. Meebles perhaps the only thing going for myself atm, so I can always hope.

[Kincard]

Could just have a new path with a boss that gives a KI that isn't used yet. They basically did that with Crystal Petrifacts anyway.

[Taim Meich]

Well, at least my return later this month will let me abuse Embrava for a few months until the next version update. Hopefully they at least reconsider the duration for the nerfed Embrava. 120s of base duaration extended to a maximum of 5 minutes, considering the other nerfs seems fair.

[Maurauc]

So something I noticed.

Slycer, you posted:

The adjustments to Embrava & Perfect Defense will not be implemented in the next version update (this includes the battle content changes that assume the implementation of the the Embrava and Perfect Defense adjustments).

Camate posted:

We will be holding off on implementing the adjustments to Perfect Defense and Embrava in the upcoming version update. (The battle content adjustments that were based on the adjustments to Perfect Defense and Embrava will still be implemented as planned.)

Am I misreading what has been said, or does it look like easier Einherjar/Nyzul with buffed PD/Embrava?

[Tarage]

Well that would be silly.

[Kincard]

Moonspeak from here screwing post up again, I need remember that happens. Do the boards not support unicode or whatever?

I'm reading it as
"The adjustments to Aura and Perfect Defense will be added the following update.
(The aforementioned adjustments to battle contents mentioned with Aura and Perfect Defense will continue as planned.)"

I believe they going ahead with the HP reduction to Odin and Legion, as well as the Nyzul changes.

[InsaniacTHF]

I feel like a "Good guy Matsui" meme may be in order.

[Selamis]

This news, is unexpected but welcome.

[chichicha]

I'm buying Slycer's translation.
The entire news make sense that Matsui did not do his homework until his colleague told him the history of New SP2 adding with Embrava and PD nerf plus content adjustment to suit.

[Tarage]

I think we need a Tanaka vs Matsui meme, like that Captain America/Deadpool etiquette comic.

"Matsui carefully considers what should go into a patch. Tanaka shoves as much barance in as humanly possible."

[Damane]

I think we need a Tanaka vs Matsui meme, like that Captain America/Deadpool etiquette comic.

"Matsui carefully considers what should go into a patch. Tanaka shoves as much barance in as humanly possible."

Tanaka would have nerfed Embrava and PD and maaaaaaybe would have touched content nerfing 1 year later when everyone would have given up or wont give a crap anymore!

It doesnt seem like they will change planned nerf embrava and PD, i think he is holding off the PDrava nerf because they might adjust content more? Most likely also the new salvage?

Either that or they are sneaking in another money maker ninjanerf and dont want people to go totally apeshit lol (watchign at you hakus!)

[Tymon]

If the Nyzul changes are kept in without the Embrava/PD nerfs, can't say there's ever been a better time to get that shit done.

Looking down >75% win rate if you have the right group, all things considered.

[pchan]

THey won't change anything to nyzul... stop dreaming. All you got is easy mode legion.

[Sho]

Can agree with pchan here. Best thing they will do is raise the floor of floor jumps to 4 or something.

[Eurell]

Why are people guessing at what they might change when they have flat out said what they would do. They won't raise the floor, but the max jumps will now be 11. You only need to beat 80 5 times to get a piece of 100 gear. They are cutting the cooldown on sametime (or maybe it was order) lamps by half.

[Slycer]

I'm translating a huge Matsui post about Embrava/PD right now. One very important note that I thought it worth sharing before full translation... they have reprogrammed NPC interactions so that they no longer maintain the duration of active status effects. Its apparently already gone through QA and testing.

Let the QQ commence.