Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[detlef]

Looks like alex prices are going to go up, even with neo-salvage. All it takes is a few more mythic buyers per server.

[NynJa]

Why rush through the ichor stage when your main cockblock is alexandrite?

[Darkmagi]

It's not for all people, mind you that isn't most people.

[Draginhikari]

Why rush through the ichor stage when your main cockblock is alexandrite?

Suppose to just get it out of the way so you can focus on the gil making for Alexandrite?

[NynJa]

Suppose to just get it out of the way so you can focus on the gil making for Alexandrite?

So you're going to piss away gil by buying Valk items from the AH, just to focus on making gil for Alexandrite?

Please tell me I'm not the only one wondering how that makes sense. Why unnecessarily burn through resources (gil) on ichor when you havent even finished the stage thats more likely to need that resource(alex) to get to completion?

[detlef]

If you have extra mules, you can easily alternate T3/Odin and still come out ahead in ampoules (while not spending any on your main). I would expect someone who was seriously working toward mythic to have at least one extra character.

[Draginhikari]

So you're going to piss away gil by buying Valk items from the AH, just to focus on making gil for Alexandrite?

Please tell me I'm not the only one wondering how that makes sense. Why unnecessarily burn through resources (gil) on ichor when you havent even finished the stage thats more likely to need that resource(alex) to get to completion?

I wouldn't bother with the Valk items at all. The extra 900 Ichor per run on Odin V1 is not worth the cost beyond the entree fee to begin with to be honest.

[Slycer]

Not this update, I guess (edit: nvm, see below). Coulda sworn it said that in the original unless they ninja edited... need to go back and check. Seems weird that they would announce it this far in advance since it would probably just make people care less about the events until they made the change (though I guess they can theoretically do a version update any time so there's really no predicting when it will be).

Edit: Just went back and looked again, it definitely says this month's version update:

...今月のバージョンアップでコズミッククリーナーの購入待ち時間を20時間まで短縮し、より気軽に挑戦してもらえるようにします...

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...in this month's version update, the purchase waiting time for Cosmo-Cleanse will be reduced to 20 hours, so feel free to challenge it more often...

Idk, I'll go back and see if they ninja-changed or updated >_>

Edit 2: I see what Camate did. He broke up the translation in a really weird way, I'm not sure if he understood what they were saying. The line about it not being in this month's version update is supposed to directly follow the bit about being able to exchange ABCs for chips, they were saying that may be possible after a future update, would have made more sense if he didn't split it as a separate paragraph. Anyway, it says that it'll be in this update at the top of his translation.

[gairaiden]

nevermind my post slycer already stated what SE ment,

pretty sure SE just ment the ex chip change

[Slycer]

nevermind my post slycer already stated what SE ment,

pretty sure SE just ment the ex chip change

Yeah, whichever. Of all the suggestions/comments, the only one that matters is the time reduction anyway, and that's definitely in this update. I'd be more excited if I still did Limbus or Einherjar, but it's a great (and much-needed) change for people who still do them.

[gairaiden]

my ls still does both. hell, out of all the times i killed omega over the years for old ls's i'm finally just now getting homam gear lol. i'm more concerned though to see how neo salvage gear monday stacks up against current gear though since my ls has been working on getting salvage gear rdy for neo salvage upgrades. just need that damn 25 usu head from zhayolm still to finish full usukane >.<

[Fake]

You are required to have 6 people to stay in Ein. It's kind of ridiculous to spend that much gil on that stage of the weapon when there's really no need to. Much better just to spam tier 3 over and over.

That much gil? You're refering to people already blowing 500m~ on the weapon, another 20m more won't be much of a hinderance if the cockblock is actually how fast you can aquire ichor (and my entire point has been that ichor was never the main thing holding people back). You just said there is no need to spend that much gil but this started by saying that ichor was the main deterrant for the mega rich.

You get 10mins with less than 6 people, thats enough time for nin thf sch to win.

[Buffy]

That all sounds nice, but the synergy part confuses me, not for any real reason, I was just wondering whats so special about the number 127?

I read that as it just happened to be the number they chose 10 years ago when programming the game, and now it is part of the underlying architecture of the game, and it can't be changed.

Didn't realize that I was responding to the bottom of a page. The 128 bit/byte post makes sense to me though.

[Kincard]

That much gil? You're refering to people already blowing 500m~ on the weapon, another 20m more won't be much of a hinderance if the cockblock is actually how fast you can aquire ichor (and my entire point has been that ichor was never the main thing holding people back). You just said there is no need to spend that much gil but this started by saying that ichor was the main deterrant for the mega rich.

You get 10mins with less than 6 people, thats enough time for nin thf sch to win.

I wasn't saying it was the deterrent, but rather a bottleneck for a lot of people finishing. Alexandrite supply probably falls under this too, but I've met a couple people with capped gil that wold finish a lot faster if they wern't restricted to 2 runs of ein a week. I mean, gil is gil. If someone really is in that much of a hurry I guess they'll spend it, it just seems like a waste to me though.

[Draginhikari]

That much gil? You're refering to people already blowing 500m~ on the weapon, another 20m more won't be much of a hinderance if the cockblock is actually how fast you can aquire ichor (and my entire point has been that ichor was never the main thing holding people back). You just said there is no need to spend that much gil but this started by saying that ichor was the main deterrant for the mega rich.

You get 10mins with less than 6 people, thats enough time for nin thf sch to win.

20m you don't need to spend is still 20m you don't have to spend.

I understand what your getting at, in general ichor is not the hinderance of mythic merely one of many. Really the main thing the change in timeframe does do is removing the timeframe as an extended factor and allows people to plan them whenever they wish to do then work around the timer. It just makes the Ichor less encumbersome to achieve then it was previously.

[chichicha]

So Matsui was lying? Idk... Haven't followed all the post.
But official update announced with PD/ Embrava nerf inc?
I thought he said it is not ready with new SP and only the game content will be first to be adjusted?
I could be wrong after all his replies ...

Anyway, not mad... Just surprised to read what he said before is different from what was announced.

[Darkmagi]

Why the fuck are all of your posts so painful to read? PD/Embrava nerf is coming, just not yet besides new salvage.

[mdkuser]

Why rush through the ichor stage when your main cockblock is alexandrite?

it's not... Im considering makng a glowing mythic now.

[chichicha]

I'm not trying to raise any anger...

I was just confused.
Playonline.com update news has included the PD/ Embrava nerf.

[Obsidian]

I'm not trying to raise any anger...

I was just confused.
Playonline.com update news has included the PD/ Embrava nerf.

They will be nerfed inside Neo-Salvage. They will be untouched outside Neo-Salvage.