Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-12-21 05:52

/shrug. Perhaps they fixed it in the last update. I know I was testing it a few weeks back and landed it once on one of the three La Theine rabbits I pulled (Abyssea) out of three attempts.

**pancakesandsex** · 2012-12-21 09:22

I wonder if we can somehow use the fact that they respond to stuff like this to our advantage to squeeze some information out of them in regards to mechanics that might not be completely figured out. I can't think of a good example at the moment though.

**pancakesandsex** · 2012-12-21 11:13

Regarding that orchestrion response, is there anything that players ask for that ISN'T "difficult"? They seem to say that about everything.

**Selamis** · 2012-12-21 12:21

When we talk about the new menu and dedicated UI, we will have a lot of detail including plenty of images, so please look forward to that. As a side note, today I was able to transform into a Crab monster... they have MP!

For some reason, this made me laugh, since anyone that has leveled up on crabs over the years knows you can aspir them eventhough they don't cast magic. Funny that Iwagami just learned of that.

**Slycer** · 2012-12-21 12:27

Originally Posted by Selamis

For some reason, this made me laugh, since anyone that has leveled up on crabs over the years knows you can aspir them eventhough they don't cast magic. Funny that Iwagami just learned of that.

The stuff outside the "_________" was from the community team rep. It was a Ikagami post inside a community team post (the stuff about MP was from the community team). Also, it was more along the lines of "crabs still have MP when you play as them," so I think they knew.

**Selamis** · 2012-12-21 12:31

Originally Posted by Slycer

The stuff outside the "_________" was from the community team rep. It was a Ikagami post inside a community team post (the stuff about MP was from the community team). Also, it was more along the lines of "crabs still have MP when you play as them," so I think they knew.

Oh, my bad, I thought it was all just one post broken into different sections.

**pancakesandsex** · 2012-12-21 16:40

Lol camate used my Spinet post for a JP copypasta.

**dasva** · 2012-12-21 22:05

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

/shrug. Perhaps they fixed it in the last update. I know I was testing it a few weeks back and landed it once on one of the three La Theine rabbits I pulled (Abyssea) out of three attempts.

I used shockwave to help me lvl up gswd a few months back and I was landing it on at least 1-2 abyssea crabs per pull at first more like most of them by the time my skill didn't suck so hard. Though was kinda hard to tell after the first ws

**grevenilvec75** · 2012-12-22 10:04

Same here, of about ~10 crabs i pulled at a time it would only sleep 3-4 per WS.

**dasva** · 2012-12-22 11:49

I'd imagine it's effect isn't as strong as most other effects on most ws. Like how drk could guillotine silence things that my rdm couldn't back at 75... so probably be hard to land it on nm and yeah I'd imagine it would be tough flooring resistance to use it as an odd kind of cleaving tool but looks more like just a small macc penalty not the crazy floor macc at least from when I was using it

**NynJa** · 2012-12-22 12:03

I think apples and oranges at this point, since the broken macc on weapon add effects took place well after the 75+ lvl caps if I'm not mistaken?

**dasva** · 2012-12-22 14:53

True but I thought old ones still work good?

**Damane** · 2012-12-22 15:33

Originally Posted by dasva

True but I thought old ones still work good?

no

Metatrons additional effect basicly almost never lands whatsoever

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-12-22 15:35

Never really has, though.

**Damane** · 2012-12-22 17:20

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

Never really has, though.

that again is true too tough. Still would like a fix to it ._.

**dasva** · 2012-12-22 17:48

Ok what about the ones that used to be more commonly used like guillotine or Gekko that I remember landing pretty good?

**Darkmagi** · 2012-12-22 18:41

Those still land accurately. I believe yuki/kasha do as well.

**Chamaan** · 2012-12-22 19:33

Shield Break has always landed pretty reliably, even on big things.

**Zirael** · 2012-12-24 06:59

Well, Rudra Storm's Gravity and Exenterator's ACC- for example lands pretty reliably unless immune, and those were added after level cap along BLU spells and Ageha, so there's a chance every other broken thing is "working as intended", however retarded that sounds.

**NynJa** · 2012-12-24 12:45

It could be because those add effects are supposed to be guaranteed, instead of "chance of effect varies by TP"?

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