Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Khajit]

FUCK. I had 10+ mil cruor and was probably going to convert whatever was left after i finished using it.

[jPuff]

Can't say I like this at all. Cruor/gil gave me the latitude to not constantly worry about funds and to be able to pretty much do what I wanted. It also gave me the chance to buy stuff I probably wouldn't be able to afford. Dyna probably gonna be flooded now too. Maybe there will be economic benefits, but I would imagine a lot of players have lost more than they've gained from this.

[NynJa]

moving to discussion

[mdkuser]

oops

[NynJa]

SE: we want you to spend 1 mil gil daily on Meeble Burrows, but were not gonna let you make gil (unless you have an ebisu).

But I guess its kinda warranted since cruor parties were kinda getting out of hand.


4.5 mil on kehhiko, 6 mil on nynja, 9.8 mil on vermy. I pretty much just got nerfed out 4 marrows.

[mdkuser]

why not nerf fishing in beaucedine while they are at it.

[Damane]

why not nerf fishing in beaucedine while they are at it.

that will be probably next on the list, because everyone will go there

[Slycer]

Use this thread for more lively discussion about the cruor/gil nerf:

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/113...ober-22nd-2012

[Tarage]

Whelp, time to make a dead game even deader.

[TheDangerousDave]

meh, knew I should have converted my cruor before I let my accounts run out, but I really didn't care to do anything with dead game so doesn't matter I guess

[TheDangerousDave]

no bans at least guys, look on the bright side

[Taint]

that will be probably next on the list, because everyone will go there

Haku fishers are limited by bait supply. There can only be so many on any given server. Most new fishers get crapped out the first time they ride the boat 3-4 times and don't get a single piece of bait.

[macross]

You can craft bait can't you?

[Kaces]

You can craft bait can't you?

It really doesn't matter what you can do, the majority of ?/ryu gil will be determined by the bait available in-game. Such that the impact of making your own bait really has no say in the overall gil produced as it will be minuscule. This is of course if everyone doesn't level cooking/alchemy and start their own bait factory.

[Taint]

You can craft bait can't you?

Have fun with that.


Alchemy (26), Goldsmithing (10)
Yield: Minnow HQ 1: Sinking Minnow HQ 2: Sinking Minnow HQ 3: Sinking Minnow Fire Crystal ■1 x Glass Fiber
■1 x Brass Ingot


Alchemy (31), Goldsmithing (11)
Yield: Minnow HQ 1: Sinking Minnow HQ 2: Sinking Minnow HQ 3: Sinking Minnow Fire Crystal ■1 x Copper Ingot
■1 x Glass Fiber






Brass Ingot x12 single
An ingot of smelted brass.
Info
[GE][Wikia][BG][Drop Data] New!
Stock
9
Rate
Fast (4.957 sold/day)
Median
50,000





Copper Ingot x12 single
An ingot of smelted copper ore.
Info
[GE][Wikia][BG][Drop Data] New!
Stock
8
Rate
Very Fast (11.706 sold/day)
Median
30,000

[Tsuneo]

The glass fiber is a huge bottleneck for crafting minnows. As far as sardine balls goes, the crystals are likely to be the bottleneck just because of how many synths it takes to have a decent amount of sardine balls.

[Churchill]

36k for copper version from AH

T3'able

Gets you (on average)
6 minnows, 6 sinking minnows

This is 3000g/lure, not an uncommon price to purchase them anyway, depending on your server.

My fishing data averages the following: 10.2+9.78=19.78=207792g for a net profit of 171792g. (For those interested, this is >0g)

Averages only matter if you're fishing all day, if you're not, you can obviously lose all 12 of those lures before you catch any fish, or catch 12 with one. Other option is sliced bluetail? or carp, I forget. Regardless, 12 lures is about 2 hours of fishing, so if I bought them from the boat for 790g I'd make a whopping 30k more. Only hard part is getting the mats, but can be stockpiled for rainy days like anything.

[Kaces]

36k for copper version from AH

T3'able

Gets you (on average)
6 minnows, 6 sinking minnows

This is 3000g/lure, not an uncommon price to purchase them anyway, depending on your server.

My fishing data averages the following: 10.2+9.78=19.78=207792g for a net profit of 171792g. (For those interested, this is >0g)

Averages only matter if you're fishing all day, if you're not, you can obviously lose all 12 of those lures before you catch any fish, or catch 12 with one. Other option is sliced bluetail? or carp, I forget. Regardless, 12 lures is about 2 hours of fishing, so if I bought them from the boat for 790g I'd make a whopping 30k more. Only hard part is getting the mats, but can be stockpiled for rainy days like anything.

The overall idea is the comparison of blinkers and hakus, the argument is that if blinkers why not hakus too.

[Churchill]

That's sort of a poor argument, you have to literally fish all day to catch your limit and still, that's if you're lucky. The number of times I caught 200 fish is on my two hands.

This doesn't account for that fact that in a day I catch as much fish in gil as I would in 6 hours in a bad party or, 3 hours with 2 characters doing cruor. It takes way less of an investment to get mules ready for making cruor gil as well, Level 30, abyssea, bot-->gil. You could make 5 along with your main, own an entire party, and make 2m/h in a bad party. Fishing takes a significant investment of time, both in leveling (afk or not), preparation, and most of all, doing the Ebisu quest (RNG) + guild items. At the end of the day, I was pulling in 4.5m/ish with 3 chars because I didn't really fish on one of them, I made that in 2 hours of dynamis. People seriously overestimate the awesomeness of fishing lol. Cruor was always better, it just took more work than I was interested in or really cared about.

[NynJa]

And then theres those people with 5 bots running...as was mentionned before as cruor farmers