Dev Tracker: Discussion (Old)

[Tachi]

What are you showing in the SS? I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking at. Thanks in advance, btw, I was never really sure that it was true and I was leaning against it, but it seemed to fit with what fantasticdan said above.

Djinn mobs instantly gain 100% TP when they receive an elemental attack that matches the same element of the current day. It was Icesday and Shiva had Ice Spikes. If the theory was true the Djinn should have used his TP move after the second melee attack, not the third (he didn't Double Attack).
But I'm sure some NMs like Dynamis Lord or Pandemonium Warden have the capacity to automatically do a TP move with 100% TP even above 25% HP and not just a ridiculous regain effect.

[Radec]

@Radec
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/DRK won't offer anything more far as occult accumen goes - you'd be better off with something like /sam (without hasso, since nerfs casting, but the stp on accumen helps) or /drg (to get tp from a safe range with jumps, and acc bonus) - but honestly I don't see it working regardless. You're just too light to take aoe damage over even a short period of time - or you end up being that guy who's always needing cures for only a small performance increase. That said, I definitely pop a wing and knock tp down a bit in voidwatch, but I'm all about terra+8magians in legion.

[fantasticdan]

Quick mob TP test with charm:

Spoiler: show

Used TP sub 50% HP at 200+ only 1/3 times, used TP at 300 immediately every time, mob was never below 40% for any of them.

[Dotsudoku]

More compelling than the puk comparison, but not quite conclusive

Needs additional testing, and needs verification that it isn't limited to initial actions on an enemy

[Warusha]

/DRK won't offer anything more far as occult accumen goes - you'd be better off with something like /sam (without hasso, since nerfs casting, but the stp on accumen helps) or /drg (to get tp from a safe range with jumps, and acc bonus) - but honestly I don't see it working regardless. You're just too light to take aoe damage over even a short period of time - or you end up being that guy who's always needing cures for only a small performance increase. That said, I definitely pop a wing and knock tp down a bit in voidwatch, but I'm all about terra+8magians in legion.

/drk offers 15% ja haste for lower stun timer(at the very least), absorb spells for a total of -25 stat reduction with dots, and an additional 5 min stun. That seems to be a decent subjob in my eyes. I don't think it'll work on mobs that can use aoe standard attacks like harpy, ironclad, naraka. I wouldn't mind trying /sam but I don't understand how stp works with occult accumen to make educated decisions.

[Byrthnoth]

JA Haste doesn't affect recast timers.

[Warusha]

Curses!

[TummieGaruda]

Quick mob TP test with charm:

Spoiler: show

Used TP sub 50% HP at 200+ only 1/3 times, used TP at 300 immediately every time, mob was never below 40% for any of them.

I just ran a test myself on Robber Crabs in Kuftal on SCH/RDM

Since direct damage spells give 10% TP, I casted Tier I spells on a bound and gravitied crab to ensure it would not hit me. I was able to get 20 casts off to get it at 200% TP. At this point it's HP was above 60%. I then casted a Tier 3 nuke to bring it's HP below the proposed 50% threshold to trigger a TP move (Since it had 200% TP) and it did nothing. In fact I let bind wear off and it came after me and I casted a few more Tier 1-2 nukes and nothing happened while it was trying to hit me and missing on every single swing. It was only after I got it below 26% that it immediately used a TP move. So we can at least say for a fact that below 26%, it will use TP above 100% im sure. I'll have to test more later.

[NynJa]

Nukes arent 10%, remember agi acts as a subtle blow.

[TummieGaruda]

Nukes arent 10%, remember agi acts as a subtle blow.

LOL I completely forgot about that update applying to nukes. (dAGI+25)/2 right? If so then on those robber crabs at most subtle blow would reduced to 6.5 TP per nuke which would be 31 nukes for overage lol. I'll test it later.

[NynJa]

I dunno the exact calculation for AGI's affect on subtle blow, I was just pointing it out since its relevant to what you tested.

[Loziel]

God I hope they post some new info soon :/

[Slycer]

It's not really new info, but it's worth restating. In December's update notes, there was the following line:

"New Meeble Burrows expeditions were also scheduled to be introduced, but have been postponed for approximately one month so that they can undergo more thorough testing."

So, assuming no further delay, I'd expect these to be added in a spontaneous maintenance either this week or next. This refers to the three ranks of Batallia Downs expeditions that are referenced in the dats by titles for defeating certain NMs and the key items associated with their defeat (sounds like the system will be the same as in Sauromugue except there will just be three ranks - Adjunct, Instructor, and Researcher). The reward items are all in the dats already and I previously compiled them in a table here under "Batallia Downs" --

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Meeble_Burrows/Rewards

Of course it's just assumed for now that that's where those items will be from, but there's really nothing else they could be from.

[Maurauc]

It's not really new info, but it's worth restating. In December's update notes, there was the following line:

"New Meeble Burrows expeditions were also scheduled to be introduced, but have been postponed for approximately one month so that they can undergo more thorough testing."

So, assuming no further delay, I'd expect these to be added in a spontaneous maintenance either this week or next. This refers to the three ranks of Batallia Downs expeditions that are referenced in the dats by titles for defeating certain NMs and the key items associated with their defeat (sounds like the system will be the same as in Sauromugue except there will just be three ranks - Adjunct, Instructor, and Researcher). The reward items are all in the dats already and I previously compiled them in a table here under "Batallia Downs" --

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Meeble_Burrows/Rewards

Of course it's just assumed for now that that's where those items will be from, but there's really nothing else they could be from.

I would also assume the Leech/Hecteyes/Slime belt will be from the Batallia Downs version of Utrig, whether it uses the same worms as Utrig does or a separate system.
Along those lines, do we reckon that Batallia's Meeble reward NPC will dispense Bronze/Silverpieces, as Sauromugue's rewards are Bynes?

[NynJa]

I've gotten a whiteshell from Utrig

[Slycer]

I've gotten a whiteshell from Utrig

Just depends on the worm rank. Can get bronzepiece from Utrig also, and supposedly even a 100 byne bill.

https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Utrig

[Toth]

I am surprised there has been a lack of any test server updates and notes since the new year. Matsui's post was great but it would have been better to give some kind of time line. In fact, we could really use that timeline for 2013....

[Chamaan]

Why? They don't have to keep us strung along. We're all already sitting here with bated breath waiting for Adoulin. They don't need to do any "That oughta hold off the little SOB's" work (need a Gabbo emoticon so I can shorthand that).

[Slycer]

I am surprised there has been a lack of any test server updates and notes since the new year. Matsui's post was great but it would have been better to give some kind of time line. In fact, we could really use that timeline for 2013....

Yeah, what Chamaan said above. The timeline right now is Adoulin on March 27. Nothing's coming before that, and they have no reason to give us a post-release timeline yet, surely that will information will come in the months following its release. I'm pretty sure the only thing that will happen between now and Adoulin is the Meeble Burrows part 2 expansion into Batallia, since they already said it was coming and it was supposed to be part of the December update. There may be another update between now and then but, if there is, I think it'll be more of a SoA preparatory update loading files into the game and not an actual content update.

Meanwhile, they will indeed keep us strung along by dropping SoA details between now and then. I mean, think about it, what do we really know about SoA right now? We know very few specifics about how the new jobs work aside from the limited information that was released at Vana'fest last year, very little to nothing about how the coalitions or exploration aspects work, very little about the islands we can own, etc. I'd expect several decent size chunks of information to be released between now and March accompanied by SoA site updates (like the monster/area info release late last month).

[Eurell]

I'm hoping they sneak in play as a monster before SoA releases, but I know it's unlikely.