9/24/12 Version Update - .DAT Mining Discussion

[Outlaw]

This could turn out to be actually fun. And good rewards too!

Who woulda thunk it.

[Slycer]

The most fun part will be logging on and realizing you need to wait until Thursday or Friday if you want to do five runs in a row because the pheromones counter will probably start at 1. Hope I'm wrong, but I'm sure I'm not.

[Cairthenn]

It doesn't (didn't) even start until you talk to the NPC, so I wouldn't be surprised.

[Slycer]

Just from reading it, it sounds like it's going to be headache-inducing to get stuff like the Fast Cast Torque. I'm assuming that you'll need a great deal of level 3 buffs to stand a chance at beating it within the time limit. It takes like a month of runs to get to the final boss, so I'm guessing those synth mats off him are going to go for a fortune. >_>

Also, this really isn't that far from MMM...it took a really long time to get the setup for MMM runs too, but then you could spam them as much as you wanted. The only problem with it today is that it's outdated, like ZNMs.

The buffs don't go very high. You're talking like STR/DEX+20 on a level 3 buff. It's not something you'd go out of your way for, aside from the ones which modify drops (there are two that enhance Treasure Hunter, and a third that specifically says "bonus to spoils" which I assume means additional drop slots or something). I can't really see any of them being make-or-break in terms of ability to defeat the bosses.

[Kaisha]

Test server had a small update also today. Didn't really pay attention though, 7 some files including the usual FFXI.DLL/patch.txt

[Julian]

Test server had a small update also today. Didn't really pay attention though, 7 some files including the usual FFXI.DLL/patch.txt

Are you sure that was today? That's about how many files I got last time I checked the test server.

and before people start going amagad new job!!1, I will reiterate again, the whole "FIRST" "SECOND" "THIRD" thing is a label I came up with. They are technically jobs 21, 22, and 23 in the list, which SE has currently named "555" "666" and "777" as placeholders.

[Squah]

So, once you clear the expeditions, do those "buffs" you earn stay with you for any other runs you do? Or do they expire at the boss of that "wing"?


nvm, I think I understand it. SO you can build each buff up 3 levels if you do that expedition 3 times, but you still need to do all prior expeditions 1,2,3,4 to do the boss stage of that wing, after which your buff progress and everything else are lost, regardless of success/failure?

[Kaisha]

Are you sure that was today? That's about how many files I got last time I checked the test server.

Could be, not been on in a couple weeks.

[Nightfyre]

The buffs don't go very high. You're talking like STR/DEX+20 on a level 3 buff. It's not something you'd go out of your way for, aside from the ones which modify drops (there are two that enhance Treasure Hunter, and a third that specifically says "bonus to spoils" which I assume means additional drop slots or something). I can't really see any of them being make-or-break in terms of ability to defeat the bosses.

Don't you have to clear them all in order to unlock the final boss anyway?

[Julian]

Dialog tables done, there's some stuff in unknown 5, looks like it's just a debug zone.

Also more interesting, in that zone:

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Can we get an accurate translation? Does it actually have anything to do with jobs? Because I'm seeing 23... 23 jobs?

edit: Here's a copypasta of the entire zone:

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≺Possible Special Code: 1F≻｡This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “Myriad Mystery Boxes”!≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

≺Possible Special Code: 1F≻｡This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “Dilatory Digestion”!≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

≺Possible Special Code: 1F≻｡This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “Boundary Buster”!≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

≺Possible Special Code: 1F≻｡This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “Bountiful Bazaar”!≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

≺Possible Special Code: 1F≻｡This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/Thrifty Transit/Martial Master/Blood of the Vampyr/Treasure Hound/Artisan's Advantage/Myriad Mystery Boxes/Dilatory Digestion/Boundary Buster/Bountiful Bazaar/Swift Shoes/Ease of Exploration]”!

This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 1)≻[/Thrifty Transit/Martial Master/Blood of the Vampyr/Treasure Hound/Artisan's Advantage/Myriad Mystery Boxes/Dilatory Digestion/Boundary Buster/Bountiful Bazaar/Swift Shoes/Ease of Exploration]”!

This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 2)≻[/Thrifty Transit/Martial Master/Blood of the Vampyr/Treasure Hound/Artisan's Advantage/Myriad Mystery Boxes/Dilatory Digestion/Boundary Buster/Bountiful Bazaar/Swift Shoes/Ease of Exploration]”!≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

どれを見てもらう？

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を何と交換する？

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やっぱやめる≺Prompt≻

をくれれば、

他のクリスタルをあげよう。≺Prompt

[vagus]

This could turn out to be actually fun. And good rewards too!

Who woulda thunk it.

It'll be super easy and it'll turn into mmm.

[Cairthenn]

Don't you have to clear them all in order to unlock the final boss anyway?

I believe you can redo certain zones to enhance the buff received, and it was the re-doing bit that was unnecessary (except for the drop bonuses, potentially).

[Kincard]

Don't you have to clear them all in order to unlock the final boss anyway?

Aside from the mentioned "enhanced buffs from multiple runs", it seems that your buffs get "used up" in the tier bosses, so even after you get all your KIs you have to re-run chambers if you want to build up buffs again for the final boss, so my estimate of one month for a boss run might be about right depending on how hard the tier bosses are.

[Slycer]

What Kincard said - getting the KIs for Umagrhk necessitates sacrificing your accumulated buffs after each boss fight, so when you do Umagrhk, you'll have no buffs accumulated, unless you go back specifically for the purpose of re-accumulating buffs. Note how the Treasure Hunter and "Bonus to Spoils" boons were all placed on level four expeditions - obviously not a coincidence.

[Slycer]

Re: 23 jobs, someone already came up with the likely theory that the 23rd slot is actually reserved for the play-as-a-monster system, which would explain why the "THIRD" job gets every single spell at the earliest possible learned level. Either that or it's hyper-ultra-destroyallothermages-mage.

[Sho]

Are you sure that was today? That's about how many files I got last time I checked the test server.

and before people start going amagad new job!!1, I will reiterate again, the whole "FIRST" "SECOND" "THIRD" thing is a label I came up with. They are technically jobs 21, 22, and 23 in the list, which SE has currently named "555" "666" and "777" as placeholders.

AMAGAWD JULIANO, THANK YOU FOR TELLING US THIRD NEW JOB IS COMING.

Love you.

<3

[Radec]

Thoughts on what the Simian mane is used in? Horn looks pretty clearly to be for the Oxossi Dagger, but can't see anything crafted that'd be CC or LC from the lists.

[Taim Meich]

Hm, they just designed the ideal Stringing Pummel body:

Matanca Harness 99 Body DEF:77 HP+8% STR+15 DEX+15 VIT+15 Attack+22 Haste+3% MNK / SAM / NIN / PUP

Loses 10 acc and 3% DA against Toci's, but gains 2 STR, 2 DEX, 15 VIT, and 12 attack. I highly doubt that Toci's can beat this, even considering the 3% TA set bonus from the head. Maybe even better than Toci's for TP, but that's not so clear, since VIT is irrelevant here. Plus, Thaumas is probably superior anyway.


Also, that new cap is awesome as well:

Nemetona Cap 99 Head DEF:33 STR+13 Accuracy+7 Attack+7 Haste+6% MNK / THF / RNG / SAM / NIN / BLU / COR / PUP / DNC

New best TP piece, probably best Stringing Pummel head as well.

[Julian]

<3 you too Sho.

And if "23" is the new play as a monster thing (I don't buy it), then they're implementing it as its own job in some way, so it technically is a new job. (Buy that a bit more, but still not really)

[Kaisha]

Dialog tables done, there's some stuff in unknown 5, looks like it's just a debug zone.

Also more interesting, in that zone:

edit: Here's a copypasta of the entire zone:

Spoiler: show

≺Possible Special Code: 1F≻｡This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “Myriad Mystery Boxes”!≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

≺Possible Special Code: 1F≻｡This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “Dilatory Digestion”!≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

≺Possible Special Code: 1F≻｡This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “Boundary Buster”!≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

≺Possible Special Code: 1F≻｡This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “Bountiful Bazaar”!≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

≺Possible Special Code: 1F≻｡This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 0)≻[/Thrifty Transit/Martial Master/Blood of the Vampyr/Treasure Hound/Artisan's Advantage/Myriad Mystery Boxes/Dilatory Digestion/Boundary Buster/Bountiful Bazaar/Swift Shoes/Ease of Exploration]”!

This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 1)≻[/Thrifty Transit/Martial Master/Blood of the Vampyr/Treasure Hound/Artisan's Advantage/Myriad Mystery Boxes/Dilatory Digestion/Boundary Buster/Bountiful Bazaar/Swift Shoes/Ease of Exploration]”!

This area is currently affected by the Super Kupower: “≺Multiple Choice (Parameter 2)≻[/Thrifty Transit/Martial Master/Blood of the Vampyr/Treasure Hound/Artisan's Advantage/Myriad Mystery Boxes/Dilatory Digestion/Boundary Buster/Bountiful Bazaar/Swift Shoes/Ease of Exploration]”!≺Possible Special Code: 00≻

どれを見てもらう？

≺Selection Dialog≻≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻

≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3ａ≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻

≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3ｂ≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻

さようなら≺Prompt≻

≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻を手に入れた。≺Prompt≻

≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3ａ≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻を手に入れた。≺Prompt≻

≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3ｂ≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻を手に入れた。≺Prompt≻

≺Selection Dialog≻≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻

≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3ａ≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻

≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻3ｂ≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻

≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻#ｃ≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻120個

≺Numeric Parameter 4≻ギル全部ボッシュート

いらない≺Prompt≻

を何と交換する？

≺Selection Dialog≻≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻#≺BAD CHAR: 8280≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻

≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻#ａ≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻

≺Possible Special Code: 01≻≺Possible Special Code: 05≻#ｂ≺BAD CHAR: 80≻≺BAD CHAR: 80≻

やっぱやめる≺Prompt≻

をくれれば、

他のクリスタルをあげよう。≺Prompt