Meeble Burrows Findings

**Kenrusai** · 2012-10-10 22:32

Did Goldwing not long ago, did it with 6 people, destroyed it and didn't get a single tp ability off until 2% where it used Spiral Burst for 2.5k. Is that normal damage? since all tp ability were stunned prior to that, couldn't really get a look at what it does on average.

**Helel** · 2012-10-10 22:43

Didn't see it listed on wiki but Samursk dropped Zouave's beret for us. SCH WHM WAR SAM THF RNG. RNG can literally solo him just by kiting him around and shooting him. An oblivion's mantle got off at 25% and killed the melees shortly after.

Just FYI, he resists shadowbind.

http://s10.postimage.org/humdisucn/Samursk.jpg

**Slycer** · 2012-10-11 08:20

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/112...=1#post5431419

Meeble burrows info - sounds like they are putting in a temporary fix which will basically allow you to "roll back" grimoire status and reobtain a pheromone sack if you participated in a run where people got kicked (whether you were kicked or remained in the zone).

**Helel** · 2012-10-11 15:36

Originally Posted by Slycer

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/112...=1#post5431419

Meeble burrows info - sounds like they are putting in a temporary fix which will basically allow you to "roll back" grimoire status and reobtain a pheromone sack if you participated in a run where people got kicked (whether you were kicked or remained in the zone).

If they really think it's server congestion at the entrance to the zone then I'm pretty sure they're wrong. We were the only people in the zone yesterday and we got kicked twice. Maybe they're referring to both MMM + meebles + possible sandworm battles. It definitely has nothing to do with the number of people entering meebles.

**Nightfyre** · 2012-10-11 16:35

Would not be surprised if they're making shit up to buy more time to find/fix whatever the fuck it is considering they've already failed twice. At least some sort of temporary solution is coming.

**Kenrusai** · 2012-10-11 20:59

Right, so I asked a friend who 3 manned Goldwing (WHM THF WAR) how much Spiral Burst was doing to him, he said it was in the 900-1k range.

Yesterday we did it with 6, he got off one Spiral Burst off for 2.5k, his powerful Dia effect was not on prior to this.

My friend who 3manned it did not debuff it, or so he says, we however did. Is the damage multiplied by the amount of debuffs on him at the time of use?

"Spiral Burst: AoE damage and erases any debuffs on Goldwing."
-I'm thinking perhaps knowledge of this ability is incomplete, and damage is multiplied by the number of debuffs on him at the time of use, or perhaps it's something unique to him?

Or maybe, the bosses are stronger the more people you take in...?

**dasva** · 2012-10-11 22:31

Vadleany is said to do the same thing when using that move though I personally never really saw much of a dmg difference between it debuffed and not. Dmg was really kinda random for me

**mdkuser** · 2012-10-12 02:44

when I did goldwing on my mules it one shotted a taru monk counterstancing yeah (1700 dmg+). just don't CC.

**Jem** · 2012-10-12 03:36

It also one shotted me on DRK for the record so you're certainly not alone (Did ~2k). This was 4 man and with virtually no debuffs on it (maybe blind from Apoc proc)

**Prothescar** · 2012-10-12 04:52

Might just have the ability to crit or DA/TA

**Jem** · 2012-10-12 19:41

Cleared 4th Boss today and it unlocked Militance Grimoire as expected. Same price as the rest. Bought it and no difference just like the rest.

Also not sure if all items can double drop or not (obviously I know some can), but can add Punga Slops to that list as we got a double drop just now. Probably already known but worth mentioning jic.

**pchan** · 2012-10-13 02:54

Did you use the previously unlocked grimoire ? Is the boss cake like the previosu ones ?

**Jem** · 2012-10-13 04:30

I've just been using the same grimoire so far. I'll start using the others to see if there's any difference once we've beaten/wiped to the final boss (I know it shouldn't make a difference since it's KI's but want to be sure / in case anything unlocks for doing it all on 1 grimoire). So far I've only traded them in to see if anything changes in the menu/expedition selection before switching back to Avidity.

I think we've had a few Surtr testimonies (we've done them out of order) already but it was simple enough. It likes to TP in doubles which can get hairy depending on the moves it decides to pick. It killed our THF pretty much straight away with a double TP move so I just used a hybrid DT/DD set for the rest of the fight. Melee hits were 100-150 ish, Crystal Rain for 500 ish, Heavy Strike 1000-1500, Comet 300-500, Meteor I'm not sure as I always stunned it. It did kill me at ~25% (Melee swing> Crystal Rain 600 > Heavy Strike 1300 all in PDT) but it was very easily kiteable to recover.

Its overall HP was low enough that the THF had yet to unweaken when it killed me at 25% and he had died at 95% ish. Basically it's simple enough considering we went DRK THF COR WHM with the WHM being dual boxed.

**Taint** · 2012-10-13 08:56

When will people have the end boss access? My group will have the 4th KI on sunday and I'm pretty sure we wasted a few potential tags in the proccess.

**pchan** · 2012-10-13 09:05

Next wednesday ? Not for me but for those that started rightaway.

**Jem** · 2012-10-13 10:34

For us it should be 116 hours from my post last night when we get our 6th tag which would let us in. That's about midday GMT on Weds I think.

Some people should be faster than that though as we've lost 2 tags. 1 through a fail (leaving a whistle use too late >_> ) and another 1 through we don't know what. I'm 1 tag behind everyone in my group despite only ever going at the same time as them and never letting tags overflow/etc. It's kinda weird as we are on the exact same recharge time, except they have a tag in hand and i don't. May be from the dicking around with the books?

**Renzy** · 2012-10-13 11:56

My group should have boss access in about 220 hours time, someone in our group had a schedule change and couldn't make it any more so we had to repeat the path we did to catch my mule up.
I haven't read this entire thread to see if this has already been discovered, but BGWiki has it as unconfirmed - the regain boon from Researcher Expedition #2 goal 3 is only 1 tic every 3 seconds, same as goal 1 and most likely goal 2.

Originally Posted by Jem

I'm 1 tag behind everyone in my group despite only ever going at the same time as them and never letting tags overflow/etc. It's kinda weird as we are on the exact same recharge time, except they have a tag in hand and i don't. May be from the dicking around with the books?

This actually happened to my group today, we've all had the exact same tag timer from the start until today, we were about to enter Researcher Expedition #5 - everyone had 1 tag apart from one person who had 0 tags and a 16 hour recharge

**NynJa** · 2012-10-13 12:43

Well I just found this out the hard way as well: if you dont collect your Grimoire after a boss run, you wont get your 5th sack stored up. I didnt pick it off my mules after killing the Dragon, Nynja has 5 sacks stored on NPC, Mules only have 4.

**Jem** · 2012-10-13 12:51

That possibly happened to me then and maybe didn't realise. Possibly got D2'ed by someone in my group when going afk directly after a run. That does happen sometimes so is definitely plausible and it makes sense with the KI in your invent.

I haven't read this entire thread to see if this has already been discovered, but BGWiki has it as unconfirmed - the regain boon from Researcher Expedition #2 goal 3 is only 1 tic every 3 seconds, same as goal 1 and most likely goal 2.

I'm pretty certain that the Goal 1/2/3 is purely for points. And in order to get more potent boons you have to physically repeat the run. I say that because if you check the book after you enter, it has everything listed as 1 star even if you got Goal 3 on that run.

**NynJa** · 2012-10-13 12:58

I thought it had to do with having the Grimoire Page in your inventory, but I traded in the mules books then requested it back, and i gave the grimoire page back to the galka but kept the pheremone sack. But when you enter a dungeon, you lose your pheremone sack and keep the page till you finish.

Either way, always collect your books and eat the inventory -1

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