Meeble Burrows Findings

**Slycer** · 2012-10-28 11:03

Someone already reported it on the SE forum (I was gonna do it last night, but there was already a post about it). It's already been responded to by someone from the community team and passed along to the dev team, so we'll see.

**Helel** · 2012-10-28 14:40

Originally Posted by Kenrusai

Why would you enter without bonus to spoils

Are you serious or do you just not read?

**pancakesandsex** · 2012-10-28 19:49

Do thief's tools do anything on the mimic burrow?

**pchan** · 2012-10-29 11:26

traded sanctity with bonus to spoil on it (from PT leader) + 5 empty diligence grimoire, which resulted in no bonus to spoil again >_>. On the good side TH7-8 is nearly guarranted 2 drops and manasa/abatteur can still drop, though torque/earring are very likely.

**Draylo** · 2012-10-29 13:28

Pchan gone eh, lol

**Raelia** · 2012-10-29 19:28

Originally Posted by Draylo

Pchan gone eh, lol

But who will shit on my xcal when I finish it!?

Wait, let's face it. Don't need pchan for that.

Is there an update on whether kick-outs are fixed yet or not? It would almost seem to have been related to boons since there's all sorts of new troubles arising from the 'fixes' neh?

**Helel** · 2012-10-29 21:22

The zone boots seem to be fixed for us. I remember they did say that if you got booted + tried to re-enter the expedition that the boons would not carry the second time. Maybe something got screwed up there when they fixed the boot problem.

**Tarage** · 2012-10-29 21:42

Originally Posted by Draylo

Pchan gone eh, lol

Oh thank god. For good I hope.

**Imoq** · 2012-10-29 23:51

Originally Posted by Draylo

Pchan gone eh, lol

(gosh, now I feel terrible for reporting him!... ...NOT!

)

On topic: My group stopped doing Meeble Burrows a day or two before they introduced the "you get 5 free KIs" patch. Does any of you know that if when we resume we'll get the 5 we have saved by now, + the 5 they "gave for free", or just 5 total?

**Kincard** · 2012-10-29 23:58

You automatically get the 5 extra when you talk to him while having 0 pheromone sacks saved up. People that had not started counter before start with 5 and do not get the extra 5 after they use them up.

**Imoq** · 2012-10-30 00:09

Originally Posted by Kincard

You automatically get the 5 extra when you talk to him while having 0 pheromone sacks saved up. People that had not started counter before start with 5 and do not get the extra 5 after they use them up.

Neat, thanks for the clarification!

**dannyl** · 2012-11-13 14:14

Originally Posted by Slycer

Just for clarity:

On non-boss runs (level #1-#4), everyone gets boons from the leader's grimoire. The one the leader used, not any other one they own.
On boss runs (level #5), everyone gets ALL boons from ALL grimoires traded. The ones that were used, not other ones owned.

Has anyone had a situation which contradicts one of these directly?

Edit: Funny enough, right after I post that, my group did a Researcher Emeritus expedition (Umagrhk) - one guy had bonus to spoils buff on the grimoire he traded, the rest of us didn't. When we went in, none of us had bonus to spoils buff, even the guy who had it on the grimoire he traded. idk wtf, sounds like it's not working right though. I'm guessing they screwed it up when they implemented that patch recently. Either that or its specific to Umagrhk, sounds like people are having the problem there the most.

Has there been any new update on these two situations?
My group currently holds 4 avidity grims with bonus to spoils boons and would hate to use them if its not working as intended or whatever the hell.
Also, have a random question regarding total number of KI's you can hold. Do the KI's accumulate with a max of 10? or these 5 extra KIs was just a one time thing from the last patch? Do I need to read harder?

**Helel** · 2012-11-13 16:20

I'm not sure if it's fixed. We've currently all been using bonus to spoils grimoires on the boss and it's worked 100%. The only issue is you have to redo researcher 4 every time you plan on doing the boss. We have six people so we do it as follows:

1. Build grimoire #1 up to researcher 4
2. One person uses #1 to enter researcher 4, everyone else uses an empty grimoire #2.
3. One person uses #2 grimoire to enter researcher 4, everyone else uses an emoty grimoire #3.
4. Do boss with #2 or #3.

Next rotation...

1. One person uses grimoire #2 or #3 to enter researcher #4, everyone else uses empty grimoire (the one previously used for boss is fine)
2. Enter boss with bonus to spoils.

Repeat the second rotation until everyone's bonus to spoils is used up. and then repeat the first rotation without having to redo all the expeditions. Note how the second rotation only requires two sacks.

Make sure you redo researcher 4 twice if nobody has any additional bonus to spoils, or you'll have to redo all the expeditions (unless you want to use your grimoire #1 instead of fighting samursk).

With bonus to spoils we've gotten two Chausubles and two Subligars (double drop) and one torque from 5 kills.

Edit: I clarified step 1 of the 2nd rotation.

**Yugl** · 2012-11-13 20:11

How can other people enter Researcher 4 with an empty grimoire?

**Vyvian** · 2012-11-13 23:34

Originally Posted by Yugl

How can other people enter Researcher 4 with an empty grimoire?

If the leader can enter, he or she can take everyone else into the mission regardless of their status, as long as its not a #5 mission or final boss.

Each person will still require a 1-4 clear before they can do 5, even if you decided to do #4 first in this way.

**Jb1210a** · 2012-11-14 08:07

Based on the above scenario, is this an optimal path yet to reach the boss using the grimoires in this way?

**Helel** · 2012-11-14 15:58

Originally Posted by Jb1210a

Based on the above scenario, is this an optimal path yet to reach the boss using the grimoires in this way?

As far as I know yes. It's not optimal if they ever fix the issue where grimoire boons sometimes do not carry over if some people are using empty ones. But as long as everyone is using a grimoire with bonus to spoils then it works fine.

**Lyramion** · 2012-11-15 13:48

Doing Associate Researcher #4 multiple times did not raise TH boon same as "Bonus to spoils"

**Byrthnoth** · 2012-11-15 13:52

We got something like 4500 Points per person for the treasure chest one the other day when we trioed it. We failed a few chests (including one big), so I'm sure more than that is possible.

**mdkuser** · 2012-11-15 14:34

Originally Posted by Byrthnoth

We got something like 4500 Points per person for the treasure chest one the other day when we trioed it. We failed a few chests (including one big), so I'm sure more than that is possible.

I do researcher #1 because its fast and easy, 3k for goal 3, easy tri-box in ~10minutes.

Originally Posted by Lyramion

Doing Associate Researcher #4 multiple times did not raise TH boon same as "Bonus to spoils"

in order to get 2 stars to Treasure hunter you need to complet the 2 different TH missions. Clearing the same on twice will not raise it's level. Its easy to check on the test server, the avidity grimmoire given my the Test NPC has all mission cleared and givees 2 stars to TH.

Anyway, TH boons and bonus to spoil does nothing noticable, so bring a THF on bosses and its sufficient.

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