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  1. #1981
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    Does MNK AF2+2 body need to be equiped fulltime for the formless strikes damage augment to be in effect?
    I've asked multiple times, no one answered I did a VERY quick test on the test server, and it seemed to be a macro piece:
    -went to gusgen, beat on slimes to get baseline damage
    -equipped body, did formless strikes, assessed damage
    -did formless strikes again then took off body, assessed damage, and the damage seemed pretty similar.
    Considering 5/5 formless should cause a 33% damage difference if it werent a macro piece, it would stand out.

    I could have tested better (/thf for starters), so someone else can test it better if they so desire. Actually I'll try now.

    My god, how do I make the test server not gag on a bag of cocks: rapes my mouse, window screen is all fucked up, gamepad doesnt work.

  2. #1982
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    I know sch can solo it with ice helix/nukes, I'm just skeptical that kaustra would do much more than waste mp. Unless it ignores dark resist/mdt or whatever the turtle has?

  3. #1983
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkmagi View Post
    Does MNK AF2+2 body need to be equiped fulltime for the formless strikes damage augment to be in effect?
    all different bogy's in gusgen
    Equip body, formless, sneak attack, 503 dmg
    unequip body, same formless, sneakattack, 470 dmg
    re-equip body, same formless, sneakattack, 509 dmg.

    Same set of tests in order: 523, 457, 522


    Its not a macro piece (unless I got unlucky both times with it off), but it seems to check for it every attack round, so you can equip it mid-formless and get the full bonus.

  4. #1984
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    That's pretty shitty, if the augment goes away when you unequip it >_> The piece itself has almost no useful stats whatsoever.

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    So i'm currently working on stage 4 Guttler, and i was wondering am i able to change to a different relic?

  6. #1986
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    Quote Originally Posted by trinironnie View Post
    So i'm currently working on stage 4 Guttler, and i was wondering am i able to change to a different relic?
    If you haven't turned in currency to the goblin yet, sure. If you have, no you can't go backwards.

  7. #1987
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    Stage 4 Currency ? Or any currency?

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    Any currency you've already traded to the goblin is lost.

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    Any currency traded into the npc cant be retrieved

  10. #1990
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard View Post
    That's pretty shitty, if the augment goes away when you unequip it >_> The piece itself has almost no useful stats whatsoever.
    If the recast, and subsequently effect duration, were cut in half, I think it could find more versatility. How often do you find yourself fighting something for 3+ minutes straight of blunt resistance/immunity?

  11. #1991
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    What's the strength like on the level 95+ mobs in old dungeons? I know level 75 pets vs low level stuff have some sort of a damage cap (i.e. jug pet 75 vs a rabbit outside sandy) but I was wondering what it's like at high levels.

    Basically I've been casually (and actually, enjoying it) doing GoV in Bost/Boyada tree, and I know those places have level 90+ mobs I can use (when I reach that level) to potentially do the lower GoVs to speed them up with little downtime.

    Otherwise it's depressing to see other BSTs there using same level mobs (i.e. robber crab) to do page 1 or 2 GOVs in the tree. DO THEY NOT KNOW THERE'S BLACK MORRIGANS UPSTAIRS THAT CAN AND WILL RAPE?? It's sad to see how little current-day BSTs know

  12. #1992
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    Formless stuff:
    - I assume duration works despite unequipping
    - You need to redo test server settings (Including gamepad enabling)
    - (0.9/0.8) = 12.5% increase in damage. Never checked to see Thaumas's bonus because you would need to rework the entire build to account for haste, so in addition to the DA/TA/QA, you need to account for other stuff. Kind of difficult to match that though.

  13. #1993
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    1-Durations unmodified.
    2-I realized how to fix test server FFXI, just copy my registry file settings over.
    3-Is this accounting for the fact that you cant enable/disable Formless at will, and when a mobs blunt damage resistance drops, you're losing out on damage by having formless active. The active case atm is PDT Bulwark (I dont remember which it is) from Hydra, since its a TP move on a 60 second duration. You obviously stand to gain if it does it back to back when you have formless up, but what about if it does one, then you formless, and it doesnt do it again for 5 minutes?

  14. #1994
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    Like I said, would depend on what your alternative set looks like, but . . .

    NQ Hydra:
    - Likely has 25% resistance against H2H damage (NQ Hydras do), so if there isn't an inherent MDT, you'll bypass more damage resistance (Doing 75% v 90% damage). If Formless is your only advantage against Bulwark, you may as well fulltime.

    HQ Hydra:
    - Likely favors normal damage set since this seems to ignore the piercing penalty

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    Double.

  16. #1996
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    Asked in the crafting thread, no responses, so I'll ask it here.

    Is there any kind of demand of the woodworking cursed sets anymore to make it worthwhile crafting for -1s? Or is shitty gear still shitty and you'd be a fool to craft it?

  17. #1997
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    If I'm not mistaken, Shura +1 Kabuto ends up being a really good piece for Victory Smite if you get the best augments, but no, not really. They sell slow as molasses and the most expensive piece sells for like 2M on my server. Personally I find it too much of a bother to even waste all my inventory space keeping the mats for it/extra helms and waiting for them to move through the AH. Even A Feet +1 sell for freaking 4M on my server.

  18. #1998
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    So this is gonna be a lazy/awkward question, but does anyone have a list offhand of which salvageII pieces are worth it by job? I could probably hound through the discussion thread of the patch date, but maybe someone already broke it down for the more popular jobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trinironnie View Post
    So i'm currently working on stage 4 Guttler, and i was wondering am i able to change to a different relic?
    I've been working on guttler trials. At first I regretted the weapon since most of the stuff I kill on BST is with pet-only, but at this point it really is a great weapon and I dont regret it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    So this is gonna be a lazy/awkward question, but does anyone have a list offhand of which salvageII pieces are worth it by job? I could probably hound through the discussion thread of the patch date, but maybe someone already broke it down for the more popular jobs.
    In terms of BLM, the body and feet are the two pieces I am really after for nuking set. I am also hoping the body has +2 refresh so I can wear it + augmented F. head rather than eaf+2 body.

    Morrigan's Robe +1
    DEF: 55, STR +12, INT +12, MND +12, Accuracy +13,
    "Magic Attack Bonus" +13, Adds "Refresh" effect

    Morrigan's Pigaches +1
    DEF: 26, MP +50, STR +9, INT +9, MND +9, "Magic Attack Bonus" +9, Enmity -7

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