Random Question Thread: Fuck it.

[Rehn]

Is entropy required with an apoc (similar to resolution with rag)? >_> I don't know how good 99cata is offensively at 99.

[fantasticdan]

I don't know if I did something wrong, but last time I tried it on BLU/RDM, they still did like 30 damage a hit, and that's with me standing in 50% PDT, Cocoon, Phalanx and with Tacos in my belly. I'm able to get them into really low damage on RDM just fine.

You aren't going to be invincible like a pld or rdm with full power phalanx, but it's very doable just keeping yourself up with stuns + cures. For whatever it matters, I also use ice spikes for the para, and a BA GoH early on for damage. You can also kite a bit between whirl cooldowns to reduce damage taken.

I've done it 6 times or so on blu, and never died to anything but doom.

[Taint]

Is entropy required with an apoc (similar to resolution with rag)? >_> I don't know how good 99cata is offensively at 99.

Its not required but its really nice to have.

I'm merited it and demerited it twice now. A lot of Apoc's appeal is the utility and being able to fill HP and MP is a huge advantage for the situations when Apoc really shines. You can also SE and alternate Cata and Entropy for maximum damage with little upkeep.

[Bigsyke]

Its not required but its really nice to have.

I'm merited it and demerited it twice now. A lot of Apoc's appeal is the utility and being able to fill HP and MP is a huge advantage for the situations when Apoc really shines. You can also SE and alternate Cata and Entropy for maximum damage with little upkeep.

Considering that I haven't used Guillotine since biblical times, how far behind would it be with Souleater compared to Entropy?

[Kamil]

Just did Zhayolm Remnants(old version), and did the room where ring/back/ranged were supposed to drop, but a ring cell never dropped from the mamool or lizards. Has anyone else ever had this happen?

[NynJa]

it can happen, yes. The back is 100%, the ring/range arent.

[Cairthenn]

It actually used to be a sort of common and annoying issue - having a THF usually prevented it. It was actually rather freuqent that you'd only get two of something and therefore actually need to trade a specific cell to pop the frog.

[Kamil]

So basically your whole run is screwed of NMs if they don't decide to drop ring/ranged?

[mallister]

yeah and the shit is rage inducing.

[Cairthenn]

Not necessarily (unless you only want F5): if you're moving quick you can do the Frog on F2 (1), Jakko (2), the south frog on F3 (3), port North in under 30 minutes total in the zone or South in under 47 since you can't get the NM anyways, kill frog on F4 (4). If you get 1 ring (I don't think this is possible, since they drop in two and you can duplicate the cell with the frog), you don't have to worry about time and can just port South since the South F5 frog pops with one person unlocked. This will pop F6.

You can't do the F5 35s NM though.

[Fwahm]

Do Legion mobs not use the "Competely resists the x" message for enfeebles immunities? Trying to gravity Paramount Ironclad gives the normal resist message, but ES Gravity got resisted too, so not sure what's up.

[Bigsyke]

Minimum number of people needed for ADL and jobs? (assuming no mules)

Also, roughly, how long would it take to farm and kill a pop?

[Cairthenn]

Do Legion mobs not use the "Competely resists the x" message for enfeebles immunities? Trying to gravity Paramount Ironclad gives the normal resist message, but ES Gravity got resisted too, so not sure what's up.

It's possible that it could just have near-floored resistance even with ES, see also: sky gods and silence.

[NynJa]

Not necessarily (unless you only want F5): if you're moving quick you can do the Frog on F2 (1), Jakko (2), the south frog on F3 (3), port North in under 30 minutes total in the zone or South in under 47 since you can't get the NM anyways, kill frog on F4 (4). If you get 1 ring (I don't think this is possible, since they drop in two and you can duplicate the cell with the frog), you don't have to worry about time and can just port South since the South F5 frog pops with one person unlocked. This will pop F6.

You can't do the F5 35s NM though.

You can still get fucked though if you only get 1 pair each of ring and ranged, since you cant dupe two different cells.

[cdgreg]

Do Legion mobs not use the "Competely resists the x" message for enfeebles immunities? Trying to gravity Paramount Ironclad gives the normal resist message, but ES Gravity got resisted too, so not sure what's up.

Any idea what chat filter it is that will allow me to see the resist or immunity message? I do not see either when I cast an enfeeb on a mob and it does not stick.

[NynJa]

special effects on/by you
and/or
special effects on/by foes

[Fake]

Minimum number of people needed for ADL and jobs? (assuming no mules)

Also, roughly, how long would it take to farm and kill a pop?

4 strong DD, SMN for PD, brd can do it with a very high rate of success. Can do with as little as 2 DD but if you don't pick the correct clone you are probably going to lose.

Can easily farm up 2 ADLs and kill one with that setup, with 2hr time reduction you could easily kill 2 ADL per assuming you were able to start all subsequent runs with a full pop. If you have a good thf swap one of the strong DD for it to speed up farming pop items and chance for double drop

[mallister]

in the returning players thread, it was mentioned the colorless souls stage of empy's is easier now. i asked how, have seen no response so figured i would ask here. is it because most folks that need it have done it and the zone is less crowded? or did thtey adjust the abyssite upgrade rate?

[NynJa]

Most who want it have it done, upgrade rate hasnt been adjusted at all. They adjusted first stage of upgrade, but even back in the day, it wasnt much competition, moreso just the shit RNG giving some people 1/5 upgrade rate and some people 1/80 upgrade rate. I've gone 0/10 on my t2>3 upgrade plenty of times, even with an empty area.

[mallister]

k; thanks. i'm back about a week and i'm still trying to get my shit together. did my first dynamis tonight, some, um, minor changes there lol.