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  1. #2961
    Relic Weapons
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    Is there any level (or other?) requirement to start a MMM? Looking for options for multiple revitilizers for NNI...

  2. #2962
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    Quote Originally Posted by NynJa View Post
    I thought SE fixed that, or were they discussing fixing it?
    I thought it was goin to happen on the next patch

  3. #2963
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambir View Post
    Is there any level (or other?) requirement to start a MMM? Looking for options for multiple revitilizers for NNI...
    You just need to have Wings of the Goddess installed. Each person in your party can order a maze once a day.
    Obviously you'll need the Maze Tabula on everyone you plan on using to get inside. IIRC it is the best way to reset abilities. Hope that covers what you were asking.

  4. #2964
    Hydra
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    Sorry, dumb follow up question. How do you use MMM to reset SPs? Is there a particular voucher that hands out temp revitalizers?

  5. #2965
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    Maze Voucher 09 has an option once you're inside the fighting area to buy temp items from the goblin guy using CC points. So basically you only get revitalizers from MMM once every 3 days per character because you need 60 hours to charge the CC points. Most people use it for NNI recharges though so it'll be back up by the time they go on their next run.

  6. #2966
    Chram
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    Does Sorcerer's Tonban +2 really lose the Day bonus or was the text left off by accident?

  7. #2967
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    Word on the street is that it actually loses it. Either I confirmed this on the test server and it blew my mind so much that I forgot, or I never confirmed it.

  8. #2968
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    Thanks for confirming. I never upgraded the NQs for obvious reason, but I saw two different people with the +2s equipped last night so I thought maybe the text was just left off. It's also possible that those people have the +2 and the NQ.

  9. #2969
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kari View Post
    You just need to have Wings of the Goddess installed. Each person in your party can order a maze once a day.
    Obviously you'll need the Maze Tabula on everyone you plan on using to get inside. IIRC it is the best way to reset abilities. Hope that covers what you were asking.
    Since you only need three cave conservation points wouldn't you only need to wait 48 hours?

  10. #2970
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    Re: Random Question Thread: Fuck it.

    Quote Originally Posted by dasva View Post
    What I describe as odd is it apparently working at 100% hp and that it seems to be working additively with natural pdt (still capped below 100% though) instead of multiplicatively like I thought was what happened when they changed it. The reason I say that though I'm about to go do more solid testing was fighting DC buffalos without it would do ~4X as much dmg as fighting them with it when hp was full

    Yep just confirmed with 1000 needles. How weird
    This is normal. Always has been.

    Pets are very odd with it. BST pets fall into of at 68% too so all pets act strange with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xerlic View Post
    Thanks for confirming. I never upgraded the NQs for obvious reason, but I saw two different people with the +2s equipped last night so I thought maybe the text was just left off. It's also possible that those people have the +2 and the NQ.
    Even without that they are the best pants to nuke in. Well I do not know after the last update

  11. #2971
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!
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    Seems SE is updating Meebles in the next update. Best I start doing it. What is a good setup and hpw does it work?

  12. #2972
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    Are any zenith augments worth it for any jobs? In this scenario I'm a galka who plans on only playing whm/Blm/RDM/sch/smn so, no bard. If not its no biggie, I was just curious, cause I got like 80 tatters for 150k.

  13. #2973
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    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    Are any zenith augments worth it for any jobs? In this scenario I'm a galka who plans on only playing whm/Blm/RDM/sch/smn so, no bard. If not its no biggie, I was just curious, cause I got like 80 tatters for 150k.
    There could be a case to be made about getting a Quickening Spellcast augment on a Dalmatica +1 for healy-magery types.

    Otherwise, nothing particularly stands out.

  14. #2974
    CoP Dynamis
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    Quote Originally Posted by TSFFXI View Post
    Since you only need three cave conservation points wouldn't you only need to wait 48 hours?
    Probably. I've never actually done it, I just know people who do. [I mostly play DNC and Aby-NIN, so I don't really ever need to reset abilities.]
    I've only done MMM for Exp and Fishing.

  15. #2975
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejet View Post
    Even without that they are the best pants to nuke in. Well I do not know after the last update
    Aren't they pretty much even with emp+2 pants? Either way, meebles was a couple patches ago and added better nuking pants.

  16. #2976
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercilessturtle View Post
    Aren't they pretty much even with emp+2 pants? Either way, meebles was a couple patches ago and added better nuking pants.
    Yeah, Akasha Chaps are better than Sorcerer's Tonban/+1 unless you're brewing or something (lolblmbrew). You're gaining net +10 INT and +6 MAB and losing +5% damage by switching to Akasha Chaps. I cannot imagine a situation where the latter would be better aside from brewing or maybe a very high MAB setup with Abyssea Atma.

  17. #2977
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    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slycer View Post
    Yeah, Akasha Chaps are better than Sorcerer's Tonban/+1 unless you're brewing or something (lolblmbrew). You're gaining net +10 INT and +6 MAB and losing +5% damage by switching to Akasha Chaps. I cannot imagine a situation where the latter would be better aside from brewing or maybe a very high MAB setup with Abyssea Atma.
    Are they better than Estoqueur's Fuseau +2 for RDM?

  18. #2978
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    13 INT, 6 MAB, and 8 Elemental Skill
    vs.
    9 INT, 6 MAB, and 6 MAcc

    Yeah, they're better.

  19. #2979
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obsidian View Post
    Are they better than Estoqueur's Fuseau +2 for RDM?
    Edit: Never mind, the MAB is the same, lol. So yeah, like Byrth said, clearly better for nuking. Better accuracy, better damage, and a small enmity reduction bonus to boot. Can't get rid of Fuseau because of Refresh bonus, though. Inventory capacity management on mage jobs is a nightmare with all the stupid specialized gear for every different type of spell (and even within spell types).

  20. #2980
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    Quote Originally Posted by shepardG View Post
    Are any zenith augments worth it for any jobs? In this scenario I'm a galka who plans on only playing whm/Blm/RDM/sch/smn so, no bard. If not its no biggie, I was just curious, cause I got like 80 tatters for 150k.
    Feet are potentially useful for cure build on whm, that's probably about it.

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