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  1. #821
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    NINs TP in 17% if they're using Patentia, THFs TP in 23% if they're using Raider's+2. I'm sure they'll part with Rajas/Demonry for that.

    Well, lolNIN but I'm sure you'll be dragging a THF along in neo salvage at least.

    I think it might make WAR 5hit better than 6hit again?

  2. #822
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taint View Post
    Anyone found/have Abatteur subligar?

    0 drop data and every other item has dropped.
    We got two from umagrhk in 15~20 runs. Just throw millions at it. Oh and the two times it droped, Bonus to spoil failed to load, go figure.

  3. #823
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    Any magian acc. staves aside from lightning/dark that are worth getting? I'll probably get ice/earth for RDM eventually but given that nobody actually wants RDM right now it's way in the backburner for sure.

  4. #824
    Requiescat in pace.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard View Post
    Any magian acc. staves aside from lightning/dark that are worth getting? I'll probably get ice/earth for RDM eventually but given that nobody actually wants RDM right now it's way in the backburner for sure.

    What's dark worth getting for?

  5. #825
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    Voidwatch procs? Recast reduction on some spell? All I can think of. Sleeps are a red herring, can't think of anything both sleepable and highly resistant.

  6. #826
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard View Post
    NINs TP in 17% if they're using Patentia, THFs TP in 23% if they're using Raider's+2. I'm sure they'll part with Rajas/Demonry for that.

    Well, lolNIN but I'm sure you'll be dragging a THF along in neo salvage at least.

    I think it might make WAR 5hit better than 6hit again?
    you can cap haste on war with a 5 hit (at least on bravura) without the ring, you just loose way too much Double Attack gear while doing, so its not worth doing.

  7. #827
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightfyre View Post
    Voidwatch procs? Recast reduction on some spell? All I can think of. Sleeps are a red herring, can't think of anything both sleepable and highly resistant.
    goblins in Meebleburrow assault say hi. Very resistent but with dark m.acc staff ES is not needed at all for sleeps.

    and the Recast reduction is very nice

    earth staff is nice too for accesioned break recast or breakga and accuracy

    Finished all but water and fire, and I find alot of use in them. The Light one is especially sexy for accessioned erase, Raises, Arise etc. due to the recast. 50 sec recast time on Arise with not so much perfect fast cast gear (no cape/grip/neck from MB) is very nice if you ask me. I like them

  8. #828
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    What do DNCs merit for group 2 nowadays?

    Er, what is a "normal" TPg set for DNCs now with thaumas out?

  9. #829
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard View Post
    Definately not winning without Toci's. 12 STR, 4DA, ~5 attack compared to 7 DEX. Well, it depends on the target obviously. Ratio starved the Hecatomb will win.
    60%DEX WS, you're looking at 3~ DMG from 12STR vs 3~4 DMG from 7Dex WSC. Except you said stacked (or rather it's not worth using unstacked), so you're also looking at a further 8~9 DMG from the 7 DEX on the first hit with SA, or 13~15 DMG from 13 AGI on the first hit with TA.

    With your gear (but replacing epona>thundersoul and pipilaka>cuchulain) SA Rudra I get:
    Mithra /War, Serk, Stalwarts, RCB, Qilin: 2891 Heca+1 (7Att/4DA) 2900 Oce+1. (Serk down: Oce+1 2772 Heca+1 2802)
    Mithra /Dnc, YCB+1, DC Dyna: 3124 Heca+1 (7Att/4DA) 3091 Oce+1.
    TA Rudra (Same gear):
    Mithra /War, Serk, Stalwarts, RCB, Qilin: 2603 Heca+1 (7Att/4DA) 2628 Oce+1. (Serk down: Oce+1 2523 Heca+1 2512)
    Mithra /Dnc, YCB+1, DC Dyna: 2823 Heca+1 (7Att/4DA) 2812 Oce+1.

    So yeah, Serk up Oce+1 wins marginally, serk down Heca+1 wins a bit less marginally.

  10. #830
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    Want to 2box proto-omega, which would be better? Sch+Nin or Whm+Thf? (Or Whm+ War or Drg)

  11. #831
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    SCH + NIN. Having embrava's Regen for Colossals is nice when farming chips.

  12. #832
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    How long does the Reraise effect from Arise last?

  13. #833
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    One hour. It's your typical Reraise III.

  14. #834
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    Cool, thanks!^^

  15. #835
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    Quick question that's probably been answered multiple times. Is there a sweet spot for amber lights to farm KI in Abyssea - Tahrongi? I recently started whiskering that zone and I noticed a KI or two early on, but we capped it just in case and didn't see another for at least two hours.

  16. #836
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    from what i understand, the only "sweet spot" for amber is for farming base feet (~120) because they show up more in T3-4 chests, if your KI farming cap it

  17. #837
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdkuser View Post
    We got two from umagrhk in 15~20 runs. Just throw millions at it. Oh and the two times it droped, Bonus to spoil failed to load, go figure.

    Finally got it to drop last night. We don't use any boons just TH.

    Got legs/torque and Earring/mage body in our 2 runs yesterday.

  18. #838
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chocobunnies View Post
    If its really low you can go to besieged and spam protect etc. on the generals, although at some point the skill up rate really drops off, almost to the point of being a waste of time.

    i.e. spamming nothing but protect on Gadalar or whoever for the entire hour and only getting .1 or some crap .

    edit: Just remembered, "supposedly" a 95 npc is also good for skill ups, if you happen to have one, or someone's.... pimping theirs. lol
    I'm pimping mine. maybe ill try to see if someone wants to use it and to see if it works out or not. I'm pretty sure others can act on him.

    Also nynja, did you try thf/dnc with an oynos knfe or w/e to get the haste from it? or were you talking about something completely different?

  19. #839
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    What's the best way to skill up all of my red mage's magic skills? Ideally afk/scripted.

    I normally go to Zvhal Fortalices for melee skills and cap at around 300 there, but when I went to skill up my 250ish singing with threnodies, I was hardly getting any skill ups, are fortalices nerfed for magic skill ups?.

    Other best thing I can think of is worms in Gustuv Tunnel, could maybe script those with tossing in random cure IV's built into script.

    Any suggestions on which spells are best to use, do the spells have to land to get skill ups?

    Thanks.

  20. #840
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    Sleep/Break > Enfeeble or Absorb the shit out of them.

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