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  1. #1101
    CoP Dynamis
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    ok killed a few single mobs and check the chatlog, I only got skill ups when I "hit" the mob (normal melee attack) but not a single skill up on retilation hits, so the nerfed it, the best way to skill up then would be to stack doulb/triple attack atma and attack a single mob and go afk with regen atma i guess?

  2. #1102
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Diabolos

    Cap haste and stack multi-hits, but holyshit at retaliation nerf if true.

    Edit: I guess that would explain why banishgaing packs of mobs didn't provide as much skill ups as anticipated. Fucking SE.

  3. #1103
    E. Body
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    The last time I did Retaliation (Like 2 weeks ago) I still got tons of skill (I gather pretty much every single mandy in Attohwa). I don't know if I only got skill on normal hits because I was constantly swinging, but I doubt only normal hits would've gotten me dozens of levels every hour.

  4. #1104
    Ridill
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    Bahamut

    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard View Post
    The last time I did Retaliation (Like 2 weeks ago) I still got tons of skill (I gather pretty much every single mandy in Attohwa). I don't know if I only got skill on normal hits because I was constantly swinging, but I doubt only normal hits would've gotten me dozens of levels every hour.
    What lvl were you though?

    Also back to the gswd even if retaliation doesn't work using Shockwave probably still will. And as far as the AOE magic it as far as I know never gave multiple skillups

  5. #1105
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    I'm not sure my level is even relevant, I went from like 100 skill to 230+ in about an hour. There's no way I got that much skill through normal hits alone.

  6. #1106
    New Spam Forum
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    Random Question Thread: Fuck it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heslon View Post
    ok killed a few single mobs and check the chatlog, I only got skill ups when I "hit" the mob (normal melee attack) but not a single skill up on retilation hits, so the nerfed it, the best way to skill up then would be to stack doulb/triple attack atma and attack a single mob and go afk with regen atma i guess?
    I just skilled up in altep Sunday night with retaliations with staff. It's not nerfed, you either just got unlucky or are too high for the mobs you are trying.

  7. #1107
    Lostbane
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    Mexi Lostbane
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    Siren
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    Shiva

    Quote Originally Posted by barber2006 View Post
    Took a year break, trying to see where I stand with voidwatch.

    Have T4 KI for cities. Have others unlocked. What Atmas and periapts should I focus on getting and maxing? I assume there are a standard 3 for melee, mage, support, etc but in case they are specific I would normally take brd, mnk, blm, nin to VW. Also, I can get, say, a T3 atma KI without having cleared T2 and upgraded? Or do I have to do all of jeuno in order to get a T6 atma to drop from Ig-Alma?
    As long as you have stones you can get the key items from any fight you attend. The only ones that means you can't get are those from the mobs in Provenance. You probably want to focus on getting the extra stones KI as a priority and I see shouts from time to time for people still needing those. Pick up the ToAU and CoP stratum abyssites so that you can get ported to those areas too.

    I came back and got Jeuno 4-6 done in one afternoon with a group. You don't need all the T6 mobs for Prov access, Botulus at least has a good atmacite, can't remember what Ig's is.

  8. #1108
    Requiescat in pace.
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    I was doing the same thing with attowha mandies the other day to lvl h2h and it was slow as molasses too.

    So maybe it has something to do the mobs (lvl etc).

  9. #1109
    New Merits
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    Bismarck

    Best way to go about capping singing/wind/string skills? Was thinking fortalices, but not sure if I can go straight there with all skills at 0 or if they even work for brd skillups.

  10. #1110
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    Unless they've patched it, they do work. I spammed threnodies on them until I reached about Lv. 70 skill.

  11. #1111
    Fake Numbers
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    Siren

    The last limit break, need to farm tails these days? Or getting a group of lvl99 buds makes it easy enough?

  12. #1112
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    Without the tail, he can still one-shot people and he still has the per-hit damage cap, so you can't just throw together whatever jobs you want. A balanced group of 99s shouldn't have any issue with him, though.

    The tail makes him pathetic- a group of pink could beat him with a tail up.

  13. #1113
    BG's most likeable Québécois
    Pens win! Pens Win!!! PENS WIN!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetEnduro View Post
    Best way to go about capping singing/wind/string skills? Was thinking fortalices, but not sure if I can go straight there with all skills at 0 or if they even work for brd skillups.
    Dolphins in sea is good too

    or make a windower script and spam it hiding while sleeping working (cast minne paeon minuet rinse and repeat)

  14. #1114
    Old Merits
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    Is SE still charging a "reactivation fee"? Or is it just the monthly payment now when you reactivate?

  15. #1115
    Pandemonium
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowhusky View Post
    Is SE still charging a "reactivation fee"? Or is it just the monthly payment now when you reactivate?
    There was never a re-activation fee. Old school billing would charge you for a full month, even with just two days left. But not any longer, it's 30 days from start.

  16. #1116
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    Fought cerb earlier, I was doing only 5-10 damage with normal hits on THF/WAR with berserk/warcry/RCB. Is he supposed to be this hardy? It was basically impossible to kill him combining that with magma hoplon.

  17. #1117
    Cerberus
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    Which Osode augments are better for Upheaval w/ Mighty Strikes:

    Accuracy +7
    Double Attack +1
    Critical Hit Damage +3%


    or

    Double Attack +2
    Critical Hit Damage +3%


    My guess is option #2, but since I'm not entirely sure, I figured I'd post here for additional feedback.

  18. #1118
    Bagel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kincard View Post
    Fought cerb earlier, I was doing only 5-10 damage with normal hits on THF/WAR with berserk/warcry/RCB. Is he supposed to be this hardy? It was basically impossible to kill him combining that with magma hoplon.

    This has been an issue for a long time now, first time I heard about it must be at least 18 months ago (probably closer to 2 years) and it's also been reported as a bug on the OF. Several people across servers have experienced the same thing. I have no clue if it's a bug or whatever, but if it is it seems SE won't be fixing it anytime soon.

  19. #1119
    An exploitable mess of a card game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noob View Post
    Which Osode augments are better for Upheaval w/ Mighty Strikes:

    Accuracy +7
    Double Attack +1
    Critical Hit Damage +3%


    or

    Double Attack +2
    Critical Hit Damage +3%


    My guess is option #2, but since I'm not entirely sure, I figured I'd post here for additional feedback.
    If you're using the ACC, then the ACC, but that's completely dependent on what your total ACC is and the mob's evasion.

  20. #1120
    Blue Magic is Best Magic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mairja View Post
    This has been an issue for a long time now, first time I heard about it must be at least 18 months ago (probably closer to 2 years) and it's also been reported as a bug on the OF. Several people across servers have experienced the same thing. I have no clue if it's a bug or whatever, but if it is it seems SE won't be fixing it anytime soon.
    Yeah I had the same issue when I tried him at 90 cap.

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