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  1. #1841
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    Quote Originally Posted by Death View Post

    I've heard Tactician's isn't ideal for zerging but am honestly not entirely sure on it.
    Tactician's definitely should be replaced with something else; it's pretty shitty in a high-haste situation (well, it isn't that good even outside of that to be honest..). Rogue's Roll or Samurai's Roll would be a good replacement (Rogue's not so much in a party full of MSing warriors). Hell, even Allies' Roll might be better.

  2. #1842
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    So back from a year long break and in 6 weeks haven't seen a single jeuno t2 shout. So im gonna bite the bullet and make one this weekend. I can only imagine the quality of people that need the clear so im banking on using the weakening items. However its my understanding you can only get five a week. So here are my options:

    Use 1 on five different mobs and try the sixth without one

    Use two on two mobs and one on one mob this week and do it again next week

    Wait and build up items and use multiples on every mob.

    Which would you recommend? And which need multiple items? I have no problem paying but I don't want to pay and lose.

  3. #1843
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    None of them need it or are really that hard so would be highly dependent on what you got. Alot are probably soloable with full meds and 5 displacers lol

  4. #1844
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    Shouldn't need weakening items on Jeuno T2s, even if you've got some paint-huffers in your group. Any more than one a piece would be totally overkill.

  5. #1845
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    Agree with the above two posters. My mule cleared t2 with 12, and at least 3 of the 12 was dual box just for procs.

  6. #1846
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    Just for fun I actually tried soloing Smierc (t5) on bst with 5 displacers.... got it down to 25% before fools drink wore off and it proceded to meteor me to death lol.

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    Buy 5, wait for conquest update Sunday morning, start your VWNM shout.

  8. #1848
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    Anyone have an ideal alliance setup for Provenance Watcher? Too lazy to pay attention when others lead and not many people have been shouting to organize lately. So now it's time for me to lead. Also a quick run through on which chess piece to take out would be greatly appreciated= )

  9. #1849
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    -Starlight Celebration
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    Is there some kind of rule of elimination I could follow to help me solve the advanced version?
    Alternatively is there some kind of flash script online I could input variables into?

  10. #1850
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    Quote Originally Posted by vagus View Post
    Anyone have an ideal alliance setup for Provenance Watcher? Too lazy to pay attention when others lead and not many people have been shouting to organize lately. So now it's time for me to lead. Also a quick run through on which chess piece to take out would be greatly appreciated= )
    Death posted a strategy for PW in last few pages. On most PW I have been into, the setup is something like this:

    WAR/DRK/DD/WHM/BRD/SCH
    WAR/DRK/DD/DD/BRD/SCH
    BLM/BLM/SCH/ and fill the rest with RDM SMN BLU THF NIN etc.

    Bring at least 6 solid DDs and you should be fine. Madrigal x 1 is more than enough if all DDs are well geared. DDs should avoid wasting time on WS proc as the proc will change mid-fight.

  11. #1851
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    Quote Originally Posted by barber2006 View Post

    Use two on two mobs and one on one mob this week and do it again next week

    Which would you recommend? And which need multiple items? I have no problem paying but I don't want to pay and lose.
    Well the other option you have is to arrange for other people to buy them as needed. If you're talking about Jeuno I (https://www.bg-wiki.com/bg/Category:Voidwatch), tier 2 then don't bother. If you're talking about Jeuno II (which is kinda what I'm assuming) then you will want some. I'd use one on Bhishani and more than one on Kalasutrax but I've seen shouts where you just pay a small amount towards the clusters if you need a ton. Usually for the bitchier mobs but if you're doing a series of wins and people have missed em I wouldn't be surprised if they'd be happy to contribute.

  12. #1852
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    Quote Originally Posted by vagus View Post
    Anyone have an ideal alliance setup for Provenance Watcher? Too lazy to pay attention when others lead and not many people have been shouting to organize lately. So now it's time for me to lead. Also a quick run through on which chess piece to take out would be greatly appreciated= )

    Mostly the same as every other VW tbh.

    DD DD DD DD COR BRD/SCH(for firestorm)
    2nd DD pt same as above

    BLM BLM SCH/BLM(for stunning) WHM THF/NIN(hold 2nd NM and proc nin spells+TH) last spot can be anything really.

    DD try to find as many rag DRK WAR as possible. Can also fit a few Mythic DRG SAM, elite MNK or good RNGs for extra proc.

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    Based on Ejiin's testing on Restraint, Ravager's hands +2 increases both the bonus per round and also the upper bonus limit? The upper bonus limit with Ravager's hands +2 is not mentioned clearly in the text.

  14. #1854
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    best third atmacite for wf cor? Finally got my mule prov clear but I can't remember which it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viar View Post
    Mostly the same as every other VW tbh.

    DD DD DD DD COR BRD/SCH(for firestorm)
    2nd DD pt same as above

    BLM BLM SCH/BLM(for stunning) WHM THF/NIN(hold 2nd NM and proc nin spells+TH) last spot can be anything really.

    DD try to find as many rag DRK WAR as possible. Can also fit a few Mythic DRG SAM, elite MNK or good RNGs for extra proc.
    Excellent. Do I need to do rolls / songs then Embrava before entering the final battle?

  16. #1856
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    Quote Originally Posted by vagus View Post
    Excellent. Do I need to do rolls / songs then Embrava before entering the final battle?

    Since you can't lock buffs now you should enter and then buff up. Probably won't have time for 11 rolls either, just buff up and go.

  17. #1857
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigun View Post
    -Starlight Celebration
    -Windurst Mini-Game


    Is there some kind of rule of elimination I could follow to help me solve the advanced version?
    Alternatively is there some kind of flash script online I could input variables into?
    As long as you make sure that every single guess is a complete logical possibility based on all previous results, then it shouldn't take you too many attempts to get it. I think I got it in the sixth or seventh guess on my first attempt and it didn't feel like I was particularly lucky. You definitely want to write every guess down and the results from it, going through the game's log of your previous guesses every time is tedious and definitely not the right way to do it. Anyone who's played "Mastermind" should feel right at home here, it's basically a somewhat more difficult version of that.

    If that seems like too much work or too difficult, you could always try, for example, starting with WHM WHM WHM WHM WHM. If you do that and you get 2 CH, then you know that exactly two of the five jobs are WHM. Maybe try that a few times and just keep cancelling the whole thing and retrying with a new set until you get two or three crits in one of the first couple guesses and then start from there for an easier time.

  18. #1858
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limlight View Post
    best third atmacite for wf cor? Finally got my mule prov clear but I can't remember which it is.
    If you using wf the best dmg would be Coercion, Slayer, Assailment however destruction is definitely a suitable replacement for assialment if you don't want to waste the cruor just for wf

  19. #1859
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    if you're doing VW on cor, you're generally there for WF. Whens the last time you saw "oh your cor doesnt have WF? Come anyways" from a group that was successful?

  20. #1860
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    Because with good buffs last stand will do more dmg. So kinda depends on the situation. Some situations you might be more there to take down shields as well so might push for maximizing QD

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