CEO: Massive layoffs if Obama is reelected

[Salodin]

A mix of the last 3 posts; because asking for a raise because of attrition is just retarded. Companies want more bang for their buck right now, and if a current employer isn't appreciating you (with money), then spend your free time looking for one that will (ignore this if you habe little/no experience or education).

[noblemountain]

I did research and showed evidence when I wanted a raise. I took 20 facilities that were similar to mine (there are no other places exactly like mine...but I got as close as possible) and listed their pay vs. their cities cost of living...along with mine. I also factored in benefits (insurance, 401k, etc). Covering all your bases makes things hard to argue. Above all else, never knock anyone else (i.e. "I do twice as much work as Dwayne!") Just talk about how much you do for the company and what your future plans are there. Talk about your goals in the company. If they think you're going to be around for the long haul, they'll be much more likely to try and keep you happy.

[Salodin]

I did research and showed evidence when I wanted a raise. I took 20 facilities that were similar to mine (there are no other places exactly like mine...but I got as close as possible) and listed their pay vs. their cities cost of living...along with mine. I also factored in benefits (insurance, 401k, etc). Covering all your bases makes things hard to argue. Above all else, never knock anyone else (i.e. "I do twice as much work as Dwayne!") Just talk about how much you do for the company and what your future plans are there. Talk about your goals in the company. If they think you're going to be around for the long haul, they'll be much more likely to try and keep you happy.

Doing it like a boss

[Esvedium]

Might have where this jackhole got the idea from:

http://www.politicususa.com/audio-re...bama-wins.html

[dejet]

not for anything but every company does this. And you damn well no that there are "funds" from unions that people are forced into paying just about.

LIJ hospital has one you can Opt in. The day the vote happened the person at the desk was belittling people who where opting out by saying "You no what happens to this union if you dont help us win!" and other things.

This was HR saying this. So please dont think it is just one side doing this LOL.

Another great vote at LIJ was to take the 3% standard of living increase and put it into the political fundraising. That vote passed. Even if you did not side with them you lost your extra money that year.

[archibaldcrane]

not for anything but every company does this.

LOL

[dejet]

LOL

as do unions LOL

[archibaldcrane]

I need to work for more companies, I think I'm about 0 for 40 on employers encouraging a vote for a particular candidate.

[Ksandra]

I need to work for more companies, I think I'm about 0 for 40 on employers encouraging a vote for a particular candidate.

ya was gonna say never had it happen to me or even remotely heard of it happening to any close friend who would have said if it did.

Thinking "all companies" do it is just insane.

Also, considering my family and many of my friends are in the teacher's union, I can safely say they don't all do it either. (and considering there's like...6? major unions left, I lol at you)

[dejet]

I would still like to no archi if you think what they did is OK? if so LIJ is the place you want to work. Not as a doctor tho, they are all pissed off all the time.


and to people saying it never happened to them

Ever work in a union shop? Iv worked for 3 of them now.

[Ksandra]

how is that relevant? you said "every"

[dejet]

My bad should of said "Every one I have worked for" or maybe its just a New York thing.

Still how is weather or not I am right on that obvious exaggeration relevant to that I have an example just like it for the other side?

or are we just going to dodge that point all day? By all means.

[archibaldcrane]

No I haven't been fortunate enough to work on a union show, virtually all cable reality shows are non-union. I'd kill for those rates, health insurance, overtime, better show opportunities, etc.

[Ksandra]

My bad should of said "Every one I have worked for" or maybe its just a New York thing.

Still how is weather or not I am right on that obvious exaggeration relevant to that I have an example just like it for the other side?

or are we just going to dodge that point all day? By all means.

what are you even talking about?

I don't think anyone is saying this never happens....I mean this thread was made because it DOES happen...only reason I responded was 'cause you claimed every company and union does it (and now admit you worded that wrong) which before you corrected yourself I knew that to simply not be true.

[Cleverness]

I like how you want to act smart and talk about dodging points when people are properly discrediting you and you go "but what about the other stuff I said!".

As a NY resident, the fact that you are talking about people using positions of power to get their way and expecting that to encompass every union, in all the states is laughable. This state is fucking corrupt, from the politicians to the unions to the hospitals, anywhere where there is money and power to be had. This is the same state where Mayor Giuliani promoted his driver to Police Commissioner, which requires a college degree like other high ranking positions, while Kerik was a dropout. Or during the big 2010 blizzard where the union sanitation workers were found to have not plowed slow. Or the Teachers union here that spends legal fees on teachers found of committing sexual acts on students and do their best to keep them from being fired, and attempting to smear anyone who writes bad about them to save face.

But yea I'm sure all unions are like this and are a representation of how unions in America work overall, and opening with a statement stating that all unions operate in a similar, corrupt fashion gives you leeway to complain when people don't take the rest of your post seriously dejet. That doesn't really change that attempting to leverage someones job security with a choice in a big election in this economy is fucked up and shouldn't be tolerated, despite "if alot of companies do it".

[jinkazama]

I've actually met David before at a family gathering, my father grew up with David's right hand man Jim Gissy VP of sales. At the time he seemed very low key, very modest, never did I expect anything so pretentious lol

[archibaldcrane]

Do I have to point out that unions don't really fire people?

[dejet]

I fixed my wording(As archi pointed out). So really that is a none point clev. I did not dodge it at all. I fucking maned up that I said something wrong a few posts down.

[Plow]

My bad should of said "Every one I have worked for" or maybe its just a New York thing.

Still how is weather or not I am right on that obvious exaggeration relevant to that I have an example just like it for the other side?

or are we just going to dodge that point all day? By all means.

If the democratic party was legitimately out to utterly and completely destroy even the ability to create a business, you might have a point.

However, since the republicans really are trying to eliminate unions, you're comparing honesty to ridiculous douchebaggery.

[Cleverness]

Do I have to point out that unions don't really fire people?

It's the same thing, just trust what dejet says. The same unions that would shelter a sex offending teacher are clearly the ones who will influence votes when no basis for choosing 1 candidate or another exist(since Romney has no real platform besides "I'm a businessman that was great at destroying jobs") and also somehow fire people from a union(which is almost impossible but ok).