CEO: Massive layoffs if Obama is reelected

[Skyylya]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio You have more in common with this person than I care to.

I admire your passion, all of you. Though I think it exceeds your relevance.

You still all seem to think I support Romney. Your literacy is right on par with our country. I am against Obama, and also think that Romney is a poor choice. How is it that you still fail to read this? I just don't think that Obama deserves another four years.

[Athas]

Are... are you trying to not be taken seriously?

[Arelian]

Yes, ignorant minorities. You do realize that program has been around since before Obama. Right?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

Do your goddamn research.

[Skyylya]

That's interesting, asking a person on a relatively anonymous forum whether or not they want to be taken seriously. Do you? I'm partaking in a political conversation because the initial thread topic caught my attention and I chose to respond. That's about as far as my seriousness takes me. At the end of the day I'll go to bed, wake up and move on.

[ronin sparthos]

That's interesting, asking a person on a relatively anonymous forum whether or not they want to be taken seriously. Do you? I'm partaking in a political conversation because the initial threat topic caught my attention and I chose to respond. That's about as far as my seriousness takes me. At the end of the day I'll go to bed, wake up and move on.

Backpedaling on your arguments isn't helping your case nor is trying to dismiss the whole thing as being beneath you.

You made a stupid statement, own it.

[Arelian]

Nah, they likely won't because it's an "anonymous message board." You can just disappear into the crowd for a few days and nobody will be any the wiser. It's called the say shit and walk away maneuver.

[Skyylya]

I'm not backpedaling and I completely stand by my statements that I do not support Obama. I'm sorry that this is so hard for you to understand. I don't ask you to agree with me, but it's my stance. Clearly despite my claims to, I haven't disappeared either so..what exactly are you getting at now?

[chazzyphizzle]

you are dumb

[ronin sparthos]

I'm not backpedaling and I completely stand by my statements that I do not support Obama. I'm sorry that this is so hard for you to understand. I don't ask you to agree with me, but it's my stance. Clearly despite my claims to, I haven't disappeared either so..what exactly are you getting at now?

You've been asked to intelligently present reasons why you'd vote for Romney and you've chosen to dodge the question in Romney/Ryan fashion utilizing theatrics and spin and deflected the question back onto the topic of Obama because you either lack the depth to present your case or just want to trololol around by beating around the bush.

The fact that you knee jerked that video of Obamaphone tells me either you have nothing behind the facade of being dissatisfied with Obama or are just drinking the Romney kool-aid to ease your ills. That's perfectly valid but don't pretend you have this deep reasoning behind a vote for Romney if nothings there.

For the record if you want to attack Obama then hammer away at the handling of the banks post bailouts because that's a valid criticism of the administration. Banks fucked up, banks got a slap on the wrist and told not to do it again.

Edit: Or our continuing fail in Afghanistan and soldiers dying on a mission thats already failed. 2014? Why? The Afghan troop training debacle isn't going to work, get the fuck out.

[Skyylya]

I'll be honest with you, I think that if we were sitting around a table sharing a drink and having a conversation suitable of adults this entire conversation would probably have taken a different direction.

This conversation is strangely similar to when I talk to christians about why I'm an atheist. You ignore everything that I say and try to tell me why I'm wrong instead of presenting your opinion and allowing for us each to take from the discussion what we will.

That's the biggest difference between me and you all throughout this discussion. I haven't told any of you that you are wrong, or that your perspective is wrong. With a couple exceptions every response to what I've said so far has been directly inflammatory and rather unresponsive to my stance on being against Obama. I don't think anyone has stated in actuality why they support Obama so that I could read into your perspective and incorporate it into what I think. If your goal is to support Obama wouldn't you be more effective in telling me what he has done, so that I could benefit from that information?

I'll concede that all of you are much more informed than I am in every aspect of the political situation. Because I don't support either of the candidates I likely won't vote in this election as the candidate I did support (Ron Paul) wasn't given the time of day. However, none of you have any concept of how to participate in friendly conversation. I expressed my views, for what they are. Instead of expressing your views, for what they are, you attacked my views. That kind of conversation will never amount to anything. If you are ever in a position to persuade others I hope you are better at it in person.

[Skyylya]

You've been asked to intelligently present reasons why you'd vote for Romney and you've chosen to dodge the question in Romney/Ryan fashion utilizing theatrics and spin and deflected the question back onto the topic of Obama because you either lack the depth to present your case or just want to trololol around by beating around the bush.

The fact that you knee jerked that video of Obamaphone tells me either you have nothing behind the facade of being dissatisfied with Obama or are just drinking the Romney kool-aid to ease your ills. That's perfectly valid but don't pretend you have this deep reasoning behind a vote for Romney if nothings there.

I've said multiple times I don't support Romney. At what point are you going to actually read what I'm saying. I just don't support Obama...how difficult is that for you to understand.

[ronin sparthos]

I've said multiple times I don't support Romney. At what point are you going to actually read what I'm saying. I just don't support Obama...how difficult is that for you to understand.

You started with saying that Romney would be better than Obama. Fine.

Why? That's why you're catching flak.

[Ksandra]

so let me get this straight

you: tell me what obama did that was good, since I can't think of a single thing

us: gives list of good things he did

you: STOP IGNORING WHAT I'M SAYING AND STOP TRYING TO TELL ME I'M WRONG.


Don't ask questions you don't want answered.

[Skyylya]

You started with saying that Romney would be better than Obama. Fine.

Why? That's why you're catching flak.

I said that I would rather risk the unknown that is Romney rather than go with the failed known that is Obama (in my opinion). Please go back and read my stance.

[ronin sparthos]

At this point even a test123 argument for Ron Paul would be more productive than simply just saying ITS MY OPINION with absolutely nothing of value for other readers to discuss.

I don't give a shit who people vote for from Jill Stein to fucking Rosanne Barr but what does matter is why you're going to vote for said candidate.

[BaneTheBrawler]

Skyyyla, you said we might as well try something new, since Obama hadn't done anything.

That means "I'm voting for Romney because Obama hasn't done anything"

unless you somehow expect to try something new by voting for obama or just not voting.

edit: aaaah, yeh beat meh.

[ronin sparthos]

I said that I would rather risk the unknown that is Romney rather than go with the failed known that is Obama (in my opinion). Please go back and read my stance.

So your reason is basically "he can't be worse than Obama", gotcha.

Thanks for your time.

[Churchill]

You know a lot of people consider father in law to just be called father, etc.

I do like how you've come out in support of Romney and then taken his debate tactics to heart.

[Eurell]

I'll be honest with you, I think that if we were sitting around a table sharing a drink and having a conversation suitable of adults this entire conversation would probably have taken a different direction.

This conversation is strangely similar to when I talk to christians about why I'm an atheist. You ignore everything that I say and try to tell me why I'm wrong instead of presenting your opinion and allowing for us each to take from the discussion what we will.

That's the biggest difference between me and you all throughout this discussion. I haven't told any of you that you are wrong, or that your perspective is wrong. With a couple exceptions every response to what I've said so far has been directly inflammatory and rather unresponsive to my stance on being against Obama. I don't think anyone has stated in actuality why they support Obama so that I could read into your perspective and incorporate it into what I think. If your goal is to support Obama wouldn't you be more effective in telling me what he has done, so that I could benefit from that information?

I'll concede that all of you are much more informed than I am in every aspect of the political situation. Because I don't support either of the candidates I likely won't vote in this election as the candidate I did support (Ron Paul) wasn't given the time of day. However, none of you have any concept of how to participate in friendly conversation. I expressed my views, for what they are. Instead of expressing your views, for what they are, you attacked my views. That kind of conversation will never amount to anything. If you are ever in a position to persuade others I hope you are better at it in person.

Some people did give a list of reasons why they support Obama and believe he deserves another 4 years. You seemed to ignore those posts.

I understand you dont like either choice, I understand that you don't like people acting like assholes during a conversation. But you ignoring facts (whether it be thinking Obama started programs that have been around for decades, or ignoring the bills he actually has passed) is not the way to get your point across, no matter how polite you are about it.

[Skyylya]

So your reason is basically "he can't be worse than Obama", gotcha.

Thanks for your time.

Isn't that what the elections generally come down to? I can appreciate that you all are young individuals wanting to express your political voices and be heard. But let's be real about something, you are about as significant as a grain of sand on any beach in Florida. After this election, regardless of who is elected things will proceed on relatively the same path as we have been on both during, and prior to Obama's presidency. As I've stated many, many times I just don't want it to be Obama in office for the next four years for relatively anecdotal and topical reasons. I haven't strayed from this point of view, but for some reason you guys want to make a bigger issue out of it. I don't like Obama, just accept or get over that fact.

@Ksandra, I watched that little slide show and there were a few items in there that I liked and most were for the most part irrelevant to my life and anyone who is president would have done the exact same things. Few of them seem to be special to his presidency so I don't see how that is any great feat. It's about as great as claiming that the president of a company paid his employee's...isn't that rather expected? Increasing Pell Grant? Great he just increased welfare 2.0 for the majority of people that go to college, not for an education but for a refund of that money to go buy an iPhone.