US Presidential Election 2012 part 2: Bitches love Binders

**shaggnix** · 2012-10-31 12:36

jumping to comclusions when theres a violent international incident has always served us well in the past

**Kyte** · 2012-10-31 12:37

I thought this picture was kinda funny

**Pirian** · 2012-10-31 12:48

Originally Posted by shaggnix

jumping to comclusions when theres a violent international incident has always served us well in the past

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**Salodin** · 2012-10-31 12:49

Originally Posted by SwampdonkeyPLD

I think I read somewhere that we have special forces groups for the exact scenario that occurred here.

Regardless, assuming everything you say is correct, why lie about it? That's the problem. There's ample evidence we knew this was a terrorist attack.

Yes, after the fact. During, we didn't know if this was collateral damage from protests or a terrorist attack. Also, I'm assuming you didn't watch the second debate, Obama did call it a terrorist attack from the get-go.

Yes, I went there.

**Andalusian girls** · 2012-10-31 13:13

Originally Posted by Salodin

This guy; you're acting like having an embassy in another country is tantamount to deploying troops in a country that doesn't want us. A terrorist organization attacked our building whos sole purpose was to try and promote good relations with another country. Are you seriously trying to blame the POTUS for this? I can't tell.

Please tell me, when you fuck up at work, does your boss blame the CEO, or does he blame you?

Originally Posted by Andalusian girls

i doubt the failure was directly Obama's, wonder if he ever heard any of these reports, but as he is the head of government blame and praise are appropriated to him regardless of fairness.

readin is hard

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

It's almost as if people have forgotten the reason terrorists are so difficult to root out and kill is precisely because they blend in with the crowd.

the attack consisted of a force of roughly 150 gunmen bearing RPGs, hand grenades, heavy machine guns, mortars, and vehicle-mounted artillery + the attackers sealed off the streets leading to the compound with gun trucks prior to the assault

i'm not saying a drone strike or dropping soldiers into Benghazi would have been the right choice, better to have engaged in proper prevention than a hasty response, but this wasn't some clandestine terror cell attacking from the cover of a civilian mob. it was an organized military assault.

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-10-31 13:14

Yikes. That would've taken a huge security force to repel.

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-10-31 13:15

Did like, a bunch of Americans escape? How did only 4 die?

**Andalusian girls** · 2012-10-31 13:22

only seven Americans were even stationed there at the time + they had safe havens walled off behind metal grills with reinforced locks. attackers couldn't punch through so they pored diesel fuel over the grill and set it aflame, Stevens died from the asphyxiation. the security cameras gave the security agents enough warning to get most consulate personnel to safety. others Americans died when a reaction force from a nearby CIA site came out to evacuate/secure the compound and came under fire en route. engagement lasted for about 15 minutes before the assailants broke it off and retreated

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-10-31 13:24

Ah ok. What a terrible way to die.

**Salodin** · 2012-10-31 13:35

So...Stevens probably would have still died if we had more security there? And the other deaths from the attack are from people protecting the embassy which is what people have been crying they wish happened in the first place.

Now I'm just even more mad at the amount of QQ we're hearing over this.

**ringthree** · 2012-10-31 13:42

Originally Posted by Andalusian girls

readin is hard

the attack consisted of a force of roughly 150 gunmen bearing RPGs, hand grenades, heavy machine guns, mortars, and vehicle-mounted artillery + the attackers sealed off the streets leading to the compound with gun trucks prior to the assault

i'm not saying a drone strike or dropping soldiers into Benghazi would have been the right choice, better to have engaged in proper prevention than a hasty response, but this wasn't some clandestine terror cell attacking from the cover of a civilian mob. it was an organized military assault.

Except their were civilians on scene, you know like the ones that saved Wilson before he died. I don't know where this idea came about that there were no civilians really protesting because their is obvious evidence that there were civilians there.

**Andalusian girls** · 2012-10-31 13:55

local civilians recovered Stevens three hours after the initial assault, after the CIA reaction force arrived on the scene and cleared the compound. the American rescue team did not come under fire while evacuating the remaining civilians or searching for Stevens (who they did not find) suggesting the assailants had already left by then and were making their way over to the CIA annex to stage part 2 of the assault.

i haven't seen the security camera footage, classified and all, but bros say it's very clear a hundred+ armed men flowed into the compound from several directions. no mention of civilians is made

civilians may have been on the scene initially but the streets leading to the compound were cordoned off by the attackers prior to the assault and any who were there probably got the hell out of dodge once firing broke out, as civilians are wont to do, not returning or arriving on the scene until later when the attack had ended

**Ksandra** · 2012-10-31 14:04

Hey guys. Children are smarter than us!

**shaggnix** · 2012-10-31 14:17

i'd love to keep what i earned, but somehow 30-40% of my check disappears before i even get a chance to see it every week....

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-10-31 14:27

Sounds like Obama is your man, considering taxes under Obama have been the lowest of any president since WWII.

**quannum** · 2012-10-31 14:33

what? "lower the top rate and broaden the base" surely means more money for me.

**Churchill** · 2012-10-31 14:40

Oh Swamp, you're back and now you're pretending you know about the military.

**Churchill** · 2012-10-31 14:40

Haha.

**Churchill** · 2012-10-31 14:40

Get out.

**archibaldcrane** · 2012-10-31 14:48

Originally Posted by quannum

what? "lower the top rate and broaden the base" surely means more money for me.

Eh, if you're just taking the standard deduction it would help, but of course romney's plan is really just going to be "lower the top rate".

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