Star Wars: Side Projects

[Hatedregret]

Oh yes, lets all want real technique with a light saber.

I don't want this in my Star Wars.


This is closer but it's not exactly action packed for movie patrons.


and yes..... you made me look up weapon videos for an hour or more. Always totally worth it.

[BaneTheBrawler]

to be fair, in ep 1-3, none of the characters are half-trained jedi or maimed former jedi or struggling with their emotions.

[Tyrath]

I personally don't really care if my movie fights are super realistic. Most things tend to be slow and boring in the real world. I have no problem with perfectly choreographed fights if they jazz things up a bit.

[arus2001]

Things like tournament fencing or kendo are also limited to rules with no consideration of the environment. I also think twirling a blade of pure energy around all willy nilly is dumb, but these guys should also have some jedi powers to pull from to make things a bit more interesting.

[kuronosan]

It's not the realism I'm talking about. They could still be flashy and have some emotion in there.

Re: Plinkett review.

[Ksandra]

to be fair, in ep 1-3, none of the characters are half-trained jedi or maimed former jedi or struggling with their emotions.

^ I remember watching interviews back when ep. 1 was going to come out, and it made a lot of sense to me. They wanted to show people how different jedi then were from the few remaining jedi in 4-6. You had a sense of purpose in what they did in 4-6 'cause there's only 3 left, one being no longer able to fight, and the other a jedi-in-training. And they were fighting against an old guy and a guy who had more reconstructive surgery than a kardashian.

I guess it never bothered me that there was a difference, a whole army of trained jedi are going to fight differently than that.

[Souj]

Aren't Jedi supposed to be emotionless robots?

[Takiwaki]

Some are missing the point, its not about how flashy vs non flashy its the type of martial arts they tried to mimic. To me the entire original star wars drew much of the samurai, Darth Vaders Helmet, etc. the light sabre should be treated like a samurai sword where every swing counts due to how deadly sharp those blades were. Instead they went with Chinese style choreography which are very different weapons in use. You can have flashy but not silly. For example the Kenshin live action movie fights would been awesome with light sabres lol, to give an example.

I don't mean to nitpick and most people will not notice the difference when watching, but someone that practices any martial arts that uses weapons would understand.

[Ksandra]

Some are missing the point,

or you might be missing the point that this is science fiction in a time probably before samurais existed, and so it's good for them to take from different techniques in order to make it unique.

[Takiwaki]

or you might be missing the point that this is science fiction in a time probably before samurais existed, and so it's good for them to take from different techniques in order to make it unique.

No.. no need to be snarky lol. I was talking about the fights not the entire movie, there is always science in science fiction. No matter where you go or what you choose from there are basic principles behind combat, also I was referring to the creators of star wars taking ideas from samurai lol, no clue what samurais existence has to do with it =/. It was just supposed to a constructive post not a right or wrong thing, but I guess this is the internet, there must be a right and wrong lol

[noblemountain]

The samurai sword fighting style makes sense because it's an almost perfect form. There is no wasted movement. That is why they wanted to emulate it with the Jedi. It would make better sense if the Jedi fought with a cool and collected Kendo style while the Sith fought a more ferocious style, more similar to European knights...hacking and slashing not fencing. The dual saber and staff-ish saber forms could draw from Chinese styles and make sense also.

[Ksandra]

No.. no need to be snarky lol. I was talking about the fights not the entire movie, there is always science in science fiction. No matter where you go or what you choose from there are basic principles behind combat, also I was referring to the creators of star wars taking ideas from samurai lol, no clue what samurais existence has to do with it =/. It was just supposed to a constructive post not a right or wrong thing, but I guess this is the internet, there must be a right and wrong lol

my point is just that, if it's science fiction it's silly to say "oh it's ok if this is different" but not to say "that has to remain the same" I'd rather they mix it up and combine things to make it seem less "Earth-like"

I equate the argument to those who don't want race-changing in FFXI because it is not "realistic". I HAVE A FLYING RAT IN MY HOUSE WITH BAT WINGS AND RACE IS WHERE YOU DRAW THE LINE?

[Takiwaki]

^ That is a totally different can of worms though, the thing is sci fi as far as fantasy goes, always has its boundaries and roots in some sort of science and based in the world that was developed. This is turning into the entire immersion arguments in the mmo sections lol, gonna stop now before we go there.

[Ksandra]

^ That is a totally different can of worms though, the thing is sci fi as far as fantasy goes, always has its boundaries and roots in some sort of science and based in the world that was developed. This is turning into the entire immersion arguments in the mmo sections lol, gonna stop now before we go there.

ya but the writers can decide where those boundaries are. It is not exactly unheard of for movies to take a mixture of different fighting styles to create a unique look. I would say that's a good idea to do if you're trying to separate the sci-fi universe from Earth.

[Takiwaki]

Taking something that already exists and mixing it with another doesnt always get that effect though. Sometimes you get a sloppy mishmash. And sometimes you get something superb like the last Airbender or Korra which IMO did the mixing great, in many aspects. The animal mixtures are cool, the use of known variations of chinese martial arts to match each different bending type, tai chi = water bending, wind Ba qua etc.

[Moss]

or you might be missing the point that this is science fiction in a time probably before samurais existed, and so it's good for them to take from different techniques in order to make it unique.

You are really missing his point.

[Ksandra]

Taking something that already exists and mixing it with another doesnt always get that effect though. Sometimes you get a sloppy mishmash. And sometimes you get something superb like the last Airbender or Korra which IMO did the mixing great, in many aspects. The animal mixtures are cool, the use of known variations of chinese martial arts to match each different bending type, tai chi = water bending, wind Ba qua etc.

I wouldn't call it a sloppy mishmash. That is something totally subjective, obviously. I can't speak for everyone, but most of the people who I've talked to in regards to ep1. may have hated the overall film but loved the fight scenes with darth maul.

[Apelila]

Well, the fight scene with Darth Maul is the first part of Episode I that has any excitement (Or purpose, but that's another point).

Up to that point, the most exciting thing that happened was pod racing. The plinkett review really tears it down well. I love the fight scene just because finally the Jedi's are being Jedi instead of running away or playing babysitters.

[Takiwaki]

I wouldn't call it a sloppy mishmash. That is something totally subjective, obviously. I can't speak for everyone, but most of the people who I've talked to in regards to ep1. may have hated the overall film but loved the fight scenes with darth maul.

Thats only in EP1 cus well Liam was in it!.. :D and Ray Park is pretty good too. . .But on a serious note .. you are really defending ep 1-3? ..ok ok not so serious lol. I did love the yoda fight!

[Ksandra]

Thats only in EP1 cus well Liam was in it!.. :D and Ray Park is pretty good too. . .But on a serious note .. you are really defending ep 1-3? ..ok ok not so serious lol. I did love the yoda fight!

I'm defending the fight scenes for their design and how they fit in the SW universe.