Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IV (11/02/2012)

[Ropeydonkey]

What? The roadmap just has "Beta and 2.0" slated for "November and onward". Which is... completely accurate with what they're saying.

That's not how most people will have read it (and I'm sure SE knows that):

Spoiler: show

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...a/roadmap1.jpg

October = Version 2.0 client distribution. November = free trial period (launched but 30 days free I assume). Saying that, the timeline is shit anyway - no PC beta phase etc.

I just think its odd for them to come out with a specific delay when it doesn't add up. If they're 2-2.5 months behind we should expect 2.0 to be distributed in December and released in Jan (alongside a PS3 beta). But then they're also saying PC beta won't even start till later and that they want time to make a ton of changes following beta's feedback.

I'd much prefer them to say "OK, fair play, it's gonna be Q2 at least". All they're going to end up with this way is a new round of QQing every time they announce a delay of another month or so, which will breed more bad feeling, which will hurt eventual sales.

Crappy way to manage a project but I imagine marketing threw a tantrum when they were told how late it would be so made them say 2 months to keep people hooked/interested. No point throwing all the marketing material out months before release if they can't maintain the hype...

Edit: I like that Yoshi-P wants to 'get it right' and 'not repeat v1.0's mistakes' but if I hear "please bear with us for just a little longer" again, I'll... well, nothing I guess. /sigh.

[Rocl]

inofficial gay marriage poll
like this post if you want gays

[miokomioko]

I CANNOT LOCATE THE LIKE BUTTON.

(they really should have avoided calling it "marriage" and made it feel a bit more... mutli-purpose by specifically tying it into the game's theology)

[shidobu]

I'll... well, nothing I guess. /sigh.

its okay we all know that feel

and agree with not calling it marriage.. civil union sounds better..
or if u wanted to fantasy it up "crystal bond" sounds okay to me... but can't believe people are actually getting butt hurt over in game gays...

[Sephiroth]

It's the making fun of the OF for arguing about gay marriage, then starting to argue about it here that I was referring to.

There's nothing wrong with discussing the gay marriage issue. SE has stated in the live letter that they aren't implementing it straight away and want player feedback. They're creating an issue out of nothing and feedback needs to be given to them that it has to happen. I'd rather have no marriage in the game than a system that only caters to part of their playerbase. Even then you'll have real life husbands and wives who can't get married in-game because the man is playing a Miqo'te which is even funnier.

At the end of the day if you don't like gay marriage then don't get one. That's the stance SE should be taking.

[Eagleheart]

Like this post if you want Black Mage women to dress in off-the-shoulder fur-lined leather bustiers.

Also, Buster Swords.

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[Fievel]

There's nothing wrong with discussing the gay marriage issue. SE has stated in the live letter that they aren't implementing it straight away and want player feedback. They're creating an issue out of nothing and feedback needs to be given to them that it has to happen. I'd rather have no marriage in the game than a system that only caters to part of their playerbase. Even then you'll have real life husbands and wives who can't get married in-game because the man is playing a Miqo'te which is even funnier.

At the end of the day if you don't like gay marriage then don't get one. That's the stance SE should be taking.

You're missing my point, I don't care if its discussed or what they do with it at all. What I'm pointing out is that here on BG you guys made fun of the OF for having a thread about it, then started arguing about it yourselves. It's not me that originally had the problem with the discussion.

Edit: And now you have me arguing about it, this thread is cancer.

[Waraji]

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[miokomioko]

These are now the "inofficial forums."

[Thiefami]

You're missing my point, I don't care if its discussed or what they do with it at all. What I'm pointing out is that here on BG you guys made fun of the OF for having a thread about it, then started arguing about it yourselves. It's not me that originally had the problem with the discussion.

Edit: And now you have me arguing about it, this thread is cancer.

lol

[Agito]

In a game where we're praying to 12 gods? Surely that's more offensive to religious people than gay marriage.

It doesn't have to have anything to do with religion for it to offend people. Just the thought of two dudes getting it on in their mog house for their honeymoon is enough to offend them. It'd be like SE supports butt sex. If people want to roleplay in the game like this in secret then there's nothing stopping them, we just don't need a ceremony for it aswell. Also, why the hell would you announce to everyone in the game that you're married to another dude? It's like shooting yourself in the foot unless you hide your marriage ring or whatever signifies this and not tell anyone which defeats the purpose.

[Waraji]

This thread is cancer.

More like AIDS or Herpes. Back on topic yall:

I here, do not care for any Manqote on Manqote sword fighting. I really should watch what I say, for all I know Gulkeeva could be lurking in the shadows, ever vigilant.

[Kurokikaze]

Was watching the cutscene again with some buddies in the office and I started thinking... This is the first song from the original OST that I feel totally fits with whats going on. Even the lyrics match whats happening.

[solracht]

Was watching the cutscene again with some buddies in the office and I started thinking... This is the first song from the original OST that I feel totally fits with whats going on. Even the lyrics match whats happening.

Which is funny because the song was definitely not made for that cutscene, lol. But yes, I agree. The song pretty much describes what's going on.

[Spider-Dan]

Spoiler: show

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...a/roadmap1.jpg

Thank you for posting this image.

The tendency towards blind revisionism from the people who insist that you had to have been a retard to expect to be playing retail 2.0 during the part of the roadmap that reads "Version 2.0 Free Trial Period" is rather pervasive and annoying.

[Manako]

Perhaps I missed where people were being argumentative, but I think we are discussing the issue fairly plainly not bawwing and creating player polls. If my husband wanted to play a Miqo F I'd still want to marry him, I think in context of the game it doesn't make sense to have the limitation. Outside of the game it is a big deal for them, most games avoid the topic entirely by not including a supported marriage feature. I believe WoW just has ingame assets for marriage, but doesn't have any support for the ceremony, it is all handle by other characters in game? Only ping I was able to get was for Mabinogi which is limited to the NA server.

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/21260-...north-america/

[Kurokikaze]

Which is funny because the song was definitely not made for that cutscene, lol. But yes, I agree. The song pretty much describes what's going on.

Yeah that's what I mean. It's weird... Wonder where that song was supposed to be used. Or maybe it was used and I just blocked it out of my memory along with all the shitty Pre-Yoshi stuff. lol

[Rocl]

Yeah that's what I mean. It's weird... Wonder where that song was supposed to be used. Or maybe it was used and I just don't blocked it out of my memory along with all the shitty Pre-Yoshi stuff. lol

Nah, just in the trailers for the game and the whole "Hear, Think, Listen" and what-not in the opening story cutscenes iirc

[miokomioko]

Yeah, I was wondering when the game's trademark song was going to find its way... into the game.
It worked so well. :')

[Kurokikaze]

Nah, just in the trailers for the game and the whole "Hear, Think, Listen" and what-not in the opening story cutscenes iirc

Ahh I see. Thanks.