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    Ah, well, I don't think you're supposed to feel remorse for the soldier she kills anyways SO

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    I wanted the fight against Livia to be even more violent, honestly. She was such a bitch. No one beats up Minfilia and gets away with it!

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    Livia as a whole was disappointing. I expected her to live through the MSQ like Nero. I mean:
    . Raised by Gaius van Baelsar after being orphaned by war, Livia devoted herself to the arts of soldiery, that she might repay her adoptive father
    AND THEN SHE BONES HIM. WHAT. SHE'S BANGING HER ADOPTIVE DAD? there could've been loads of story about that

    Things maybe people have figured out or haven't possible spoilers:
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    Has anyone found Nael van Darnus in any CS whatsoever? He exists as an NPC still in what I imagine is a CS (unknown location). For comparison, there's 2 Louisoix and we know he appears in CS in both Turn 1 and Turn 5.

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    Super hot daddy issues. Raises a cold bitch to everyone but him in the bedroom, melting her frigid heart. Oh, the fanfics.

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    "No...I like it with the helmet on."

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    Does anyone have info about the cs that plays after T5? The whole deal with Dalamund is one of the few genuinely interesting things in this shit story and I'd like to know what's up with
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    Bahamut's head
    in the final area of T5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taruranto View Post
    Does anyone have info about the cs that plays after T5? The whole deal with Dalamund is one of the few genuinely interesting things in this shit story and I'd like to know what's up with
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    Bahamut's head
    in the final area of T5.
    http://xivdb.com/?quest/66695/Primal-Awakening
    http://xivdb.com/?quest/66696/Alisaie's-Pledge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl View Post
    Things maybe people have figured out or haven't possible spoilers:
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    Has anyone found Nael van Darnus in any CS whatsoever? He exists as an NPC still in what I imagine is a CS (unknown location). For comparison, there's 2 Louisoix and we know he appears in CS in both Turn 1 and Turn 5.
    So I found a video of post Turn 5 (since I haven't slain the dragon myself, I am ashamed to admit).
    Obvious spoilers


    I do believe this is Nep's video who posts on these very forums (I remember fighting the great Yellow Pelican of Beta 3 with the brave warrior).

    Anyways, solracht already spoiled the text for us via xivdb but here's the important part:
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    Nael van Darnus is alive. Louisoix is alive. They are working together. What the fuck mate. I originally wished both of these men to stay dead forever, but I never thought they'd bring them back on the same side.

    Ridiculous Roclwena speculation:
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    inb4 nael van darnus is louisoix's son and alisaie/alphinaud are his kids and that's why louisoix sent us to kill the primals to siphon aether to dalamud to summon bahamut

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    Why would he try to reseal it then?

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    Reseal what? As far as I can tell, there's no indication as to what they're trying to accomplish down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    Reseal what? As far as I can tell, there's no indication as to what they're trying to accomplish down there.
    I think he means when Bahamut exploded the realm?

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    Ridiculous Roclwena speculation wasn't entirely serious. If you give it more than a minute of thought then it all falls apart.

    Since this is discussing content that's supposed to be viewed only by the great 100
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    Since we know Nael is of Allagan descent and is either tempered by Zodiark or Bahamut during the finale of To Kill A Raven, we can safely assume Louisoix also is no longer acting with a clear mind / of his own free will. Another fun fact is Thaliak, Louisoix's patron deity + potentially the god he's reincarnate of, had his symbol carved (by the Circle of Knowing) at the Crypt/Tomb of Xandes which we now know is the ancient Allagan emperor who built the Crystal Tower (pretty sure anyway). So there's potentially a link between Louisoix and the Allagans as well. It's entirely possible the Sharlayan nation has either dealt with Allagans before (far to the west, since our Sharlayan was a colony of the homeland) or are direct descendants of the Allagan Empire.

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    Edit: nvm

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    Two more like fragments of Dalamud pierced the earth when the lesser moon fell. One we have seen. If we can but find the other two, I am certain that we will find Grandfather as well.
    What fragments are they referring to?

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    I think they're talking about the giant key/sword-like things. The most obvious of which is the one that thrusts into the ground in the middle of the Mor Dhona battlefield during the end-of-an-era CS.

    I'm not terribly far into coil, but it certainly looks like you're traveling down one of those in the opening CS to turn-2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldo View Post
    The giant key-like things. The most obvious of which is the one that thrusts into the ground during the end-of-an-era CS.
    Right but what are they in game terms? Is it just an artifact of Dalamud (like it serves no purpose other than lore?). I'll admit I haven't watched any of the Coil cutscenes, I always skip for clear. One of these days I will. I love lore for the relationship it has to what we do in game. I was just wondering if these fragments do anything I guess, in game terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Therin View Post
    Right but what are they in game terms? Is it just an artifact of Dalamud (like it serves no purpose other than lore?). I'll admit I haven't watched any of the Coil cutscenes, I always skip for clear. One of these days I will. I love lore for the relationship it has to what we do in game. I was just wondering if these fragments do anything I guess, in game terms.
    Other than being raid dungeons and funneling aether to Bahamut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vuitton View Post
    Other than being raid dungeons and funneling aether to Bahamut?
    That's what I was asking. Seems like people enjoying being cryptic.

    So the fragment in question is part of Binding Coil I assume? I always thought Crystal Tower was one of those splintery things that came out of Dalamud, too.

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    Why can't you view any of the BC cutscenes aside from the turn 1 intro?

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    I believe they hinted back in 1.0 that the Crystal Tower was already underground Mor Dhona, and was brought up (how? who knows.) after the Mor Dhona battle. I don't think it's directly related to Dalamud.

    As for the specific purpose of the Dalamud keys... I don't think we've ever been given that information besides it being the Allagan machinery funneling aether to Bahamut, as he said. I don't think the intention was to be cryptic, we just really don't have a whole lot of info on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Niiro View Post
    Why can't you view any of the BC cutscenes aside from the turn 1 intro?
    I assumed they would become available once you beat turn-5, but either way that's really lame.

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