FFXIV story/lore thread

**ronin sparthos** · 2014-07-10 17:27

Originally Posted by Lucavi

Nero was giving me some Tactics Ogre Vyce vibes all through that story. He's whatever you don't want him to be, baby. Also, that goddamn awesome face and 5 o'clock shadow of his. He's absolutely a Disk 3 boss, or a Kefka-esque potential final boss. Love it!

Every time Nero appears he apparently doesn't give a fuck with that shit-eating smug look of his. That duster he shows up wearing after the events of the Praetorium just kicked up his cool factor another 10 points.

Originally Posted by Rionel

I've been trying to find more solid information but, God that would certainly make Tamtara Deepdroft (Hard) make a lot more sense, wouldn't it?

I thought Tamtara was meant to be humorous and sad at the same time. A tale of what happens when your healer snaps and resorts to necromancy. A cautionary tale!

**Niiro** · 2014-07-10 18:29

(he's wearing ALC AF)

I think Nero is just going to be a representation of what Cid would be without a conscience basically, he'll most likely have a tragic story arc.

His characterization (what of it there was) was mostly about his envy of Cid and how privileged and brilliant he was and how it led to Gaius favoring Cid over him.

His ambition to overcome his feelings of inferiority becoming his undoing, etc.

tol · 2014-07-11 03:52

He will have to be the 2nd to last boss right before Cloud of Darkness. I'd rather it not be a "willingly" give himself over to the dark power type deal though. I think it would be better that his own arrogance caused him to slip up here and get caught up with CoD and now is a thrall.

Maybe a redemption plot, but I'm kind of sick of those from WoW >.>

**miokomioko** · 2014-07-11 16:56

How convenient that Cloud of Darkness pulled in exactly 3 characters to be her 3 sub-bosses for CT3.

HMMMMM!

**Niiro** · 2014-07-11 17:53

Eh, idk.

Would make sense, to me, for maybe Doga and Unei to be "harnessed" by CoD as her two tentacle appendages maybe.

**solracht** · 2014-07-11 18:12

Cerberus, Ahriman, Nero, Cloud of Darkness

**ronin sparthos** · 2014-07-12 01:25

Originally Posted by miokomioko

How convenient that Cloud of Darkness pulled in exactly 3 characters to be her 3 sub-bosses for CT3.

HMMMMM!

Can't wait for the Cloud of Darkness remix in CT3. Also, I wonder if this leaves the door open for more big name villains in ARR.

That Neo-Exdeath battle might not be impossible afterall!

**Rocl** · 2014-07-12 01:35

Considering we've fought Gilgamesh and are gearing up to fight Cloud of Darkness and have seen Ultros.... no, not at all, very possible lol

tol · 2014-07-12 05:05

Oh man, an XIV inspired The Evil Lord Exdeath track. Pls SE..PLS

**Alkar** · 2014-07-12 07:58

I don't think we're seeing Cloud of Darkness in CT3. We still haven't been to Eureka and there's at least 2 more CT updates to come. I also don't think they'll have only 3 bosses before the Cloud, they've been quite faithful to the original so far so we'll likely get Ahriman, Two Headed Dragon, Echidna and Cerberus and we'll free Doga, Unei and Nero from the crystals.. and maybe another character that we haven't seen yet in the CT storyline.

**Rocl** · 2014-07-12 14:35

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...d-future-plans

――And as Crystal Tower traces the path of FFIII, it would appear that two more dungeons are still to come. Is that the plan?

Since the Forbidden Land of Eureka is less of a dungeon than a treasure cove, we will most likely use it for some other purpose. By the end of Syrcus Tower we have discovered the existence of the Cloud of Darkness and the World of Darkness, and Unei and Doga have both appeared as well. How those two will interact with the story moving forward will be the key.

Quote from Yoshida interview. I don't expect Eureka to appear as a Raid.

Same interview also mentions Crystal Tower and Binding Coil are set to conclude before expansion. The next Crystal Tower update is six months away. (You figure Coil-3 will come out in October and CT-3 in January/February)

**Lucavi** · 2014-07-12 15:02

Originally Posted by Niiro

(he's wearing ALC AF)

I think Nero is just going to be a representation of what Cid would be without a conscience basically, he'll most likely have a tragic story arc.

His characterization (what of it there was) was mostly about his envy of Cid and how privileged and brilliant he was and how it led to Gaius favoring Cid over him.

His ambition to overcome his feelings of inferiority becoming his undoing, etc.

Which is why I said he's like Vyce, only a lot less unhinged. He's a douche, but the best kind of douche because he maintains his awesomeness despite being a "whatever you dont want me to be" aura, stemming from his jealous of the protagonist (in this case, Cid). Whatever Cid deems to be the right direction, Nero is going to go the opposite way. At least there's no awkward psuedo-love-triangle between them like with Vyce, Denam and Caitua, with Vyce loving Caitua, her loving Denam and Denam just wanting to be a bland, stock protagonist for everything that doesn't concern fulfilling his father's last wishes.

**Alkar** · 2014-07-12 15:22

Originally Posted by Rocl

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...d-future-plans

Quote from Yoshida interview. I don't expect Eureka to appear as a Raid.

Same interview also mentions Crystal Tower and Binding Coil are set to conclude before expansion. The next Crystal Tower update is six months away. (You figure Coil-3 will come out in October and CT-3 in January/February)

They probably scrapped it then, CT was supposed to be 4 updates long and extend beyond the expansion.

**Toth** · 2014-07-12 18:31

So having finishing Tamatara, I wonder if Edda's story will continue....Your sig says it all, Ronin. Such a creepy but effective subplot.

**Nama** · 2014-07-12 23:18

Originally Posted by Alkar

They probably scrapped it then, CT was supposed to be 4 updates long and extend beyond the expansion.

I suppose its better its short and sweet rather then draw it out where each CT update was only like 5-6 floors. Then again I wouldn't discount the idea of a Crystal Tower Hard mode eventually after lv cap increase.

**miokomioko** · 2014-07-13 00:54

Originally Posted by Nama

Then again I wouldn't discount the idea of a Crystal Tower Hard mode eventually after lv cap increase.

I think, in a recent interview, he implied that upping the difficulty for a 24-man raid would be a bad idea.

They need to allow pre-formed alliances to enter these so the idea is not so absurd after all and Free Companies can actually do things in groups larger than 8 and possibly not lock them out from helping each other.

**Rocl** · 2014-07-13 03:42

Rocl's Post 2.3 musings, spoilers for everything:

Spoiler: show

Hildibrand's masked thief I originally thought might be a nod to Locke or some other Final Fantasy Thief but it's more likely just to hype Rogue like Yugiri hyped Ninja.

Shiva = Lady Iceheart, wow much surprise. It seems the Ascians are manipulating both the heretics and the Ishgardians into this conflict. However, should the Ascians be manipulating only the Ishgardians this brings a rather nifty dynamic into the fold. Surprise! Dragons are the good guys? Perhaps due to their (assumedly) long lives they know more than you'd think for slavering beasts. After all, they repelled the Imperial dreadnaught at Sivlertear Falls while the rest of Eorzea stood helpless!

Could it be there is a grand Dragon puppetmaster controlling them the way the Allagans did so many years ago?

The Cloud of Darkness is referred to as a Voidsent. Is she just a preternaturally powerful one? Does this interact with the Ascians in any way? The Void seems to trigger G'raha's Allagan migraines.

In the same patch we learn about how mortal beings disperse into Aether we're met with a mortal being brought back from the sea of Aether... the Aether which made up Xande thousands of years ago should've dispersed before Amon had the chance to revive him...

Speaking of which the parallels with what Amon did to the Crystal Tower and what Louisoix did to the Legacy master race is spooky similar imo. More funny coincidences take place when you realize Amon probably created Dalamud and was killed by us and Louisoix died by Dalamud while saving us.

Is Omega just a stronger Ultima Weapon? I mean, it was made to subdue Bahamut and Bahamut was scared enough of it that he had Nael crash his prison into Carteneau in hopes of destroying it.

The Archbishop's staff shone after we bore witness to Elidibus and Lahabrea being by his side. Could it be his staff is another key to summoning? After all, the Ascians ever were fond of giving people the tools to throw the world into Chaos.

The next patch will likely lay bare how Shiva, the heretics, Iceheart, and the Ishgardians play into the Ascian's machinations. Like as not someone will be goaded into Summoning. Summoning Shiva in place of Halone is a cute twist, or perhaps Iceheart is slain and the Heretics summon their lost leader back to life? The heretics previously seemed as thralls to the dragons and the dragons thralls to greater dragons yet Iceheart's band stands alone. Why?

It's also cute that the Frontlines base "Allagan Sun Temple" hints at the fact the Allagan might've been a monotheistic people who worshiped the Sun. In which the idea of harnessing their god's (i.e. the Sun's) power by way of Crystal Tower seems downright fantastic.

The fate of the Island of Val will likely play only a minor part in the coming storyline and I expect it to lead to the N-Zone being the next Raid tier.

Rocl's retarded reading into Ramuh lyrics:

Spoiler: show

**Nama** · 2014-07-13 08:05

Originally Posted by miokomioko

I think, in a recent interview, he implied that upping the difficulty for a 24-man raid would be a bad idea.

They need to allow pre-formed alliances to enter these so the idea is not so absurd after all and Free Companies can actually do things in groups larger than 8 and possibly not lock them out from helping each other.

I don't see hard-modes are really simply upping difficultly but more of bring old content in line with what the current expected difficulty is. So a Crystal Tower (Hard mode) would likely be new mobs/gimmicks inline with whatever current ilv/ player level is at the time but still be comparatively as difficult as they are now. Its going out on a limb thinking they might hard mode' raids like they do dungeons but Crystal Tower is pretty beautiful and its a shame to see it become forgotten about save for glamour after any player level increase. Say a year or two from now after players can get lv 60+ or w/e why not just drop new mobs/items in CT and make up some story reason why say idk Gigas finally moved in or something and rerelease CT as bonus raid.

**miokomioko** · 2014-07-13 23:50

Look, Rocl! I wasn't making it up!

I haven't noticed any besides these 3, but that sure as hell is the HQ symbol. I always wondered why they chose that symbol for HQ.

RELEVANT? I DON'T KNOW.

Spoiler: show

Perhaps there's some more in The Burning Wall or Castrum Occidens?

Curiosity regarding Shiva:

Spoiler: show

**Niiro** · 2014-07-14 00:35

Originally Posted by miokomioko

Also, after witnessing Jura Aevis upon aggro, it seems like Aevis are heretics transformed into dragons via the blood of dragons? "TO FEAR ME IS TO LOVE ME!" Wut?

I don't suppose you've ever seen one of the mages finish casting Dragon's Blood.

>_>

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