Israel/Palstine War - Twitter edition

[archibaldcrane]

I don't get it. Why don't the Palestinians just blow up these new settlements? Or kill the settlers?

I find it strange that the settlements aren't attacked more/instead as well. But you have to remember, the Gaza Strip is a whopping 5 miles across, bordered the long way by Israel. They can have helicopters and warplanes anywhere in the strip in a matter of minutes if shit gets out of hand.

[Mazmaz]

No I mean, why don't the Palestinians in the West Bank do anything violent?

[archibaldcrane]

West Bank isn't controlled by Hamas, they're controlled by the Palestinian Authority, and they're a bit less...terrorist-y over there.

[archibaldcrane]

It is funny/ridiculous/sad that the West Bank, who hasn't rocket-attacked Israel ever as far as I can tell, is getting equally punished with additional settlements/tax revenue withheld when Hamas was doing all the fighting down in the gaza strip.

[archibaldcrane]

Basically, you're fucked if you take them on militarily, and you're fucked if you attempt to take them on diplomatically.

Israel doesn't want a solution, they want to antagonize Palestinians to violence regularly enough to keep stealing their land.

[Correction]

It is funny/ridiculous/sad that the West Bank, who hasn't rocket-attacked Israel ever as far as I can tell, is getting equally punished with additional settlements/tax revenue withheld when Hamas was doing all the fighting down in the gaza strip.

The best part is that Israel seems more willing to have negotiations with Hamas than the PA.

It's all part of the plan.
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[archibaldcrane]

Hamas has the beachfront yo, who gives a shit about the west bank other than East Jerusalem which they've basically completely taken anyway.

[Mazmaz]

West Bank isn't controlled by Hamas, they're controlled by the Palestinian Authority, and they're a bit less...terrorist-y over there.

I know. I'm just saying if I was in West Bank, I would flip my shit if Israel was doing these things to me.

[Khajit]

Also, who are these fucking settlers that want to live in these danger zones?

The religious zealots or ultra nationalistic people usually are prime material. They're more prone towards expanding to the edge of the fence so that Israel has to take even more land for "security" purposes. They're also more likely to attack,threaten,be racist to or generally antagonize Palestinians so that there's a chance one of them gets fed up for half a second and Israeli soldiers must "defend" the people from those brutal Palestinian savages.

[Plow]

Well, I believe it contravenes the peace process that they have on-again, off-again, engaged in for a while.

I am not saying it is equivalent to settlements. I am just saying it was provocative, and they knew there would be a response.

This line of reasoning is completely invalid in relation to political maneuvering. Launching rockets and shit is one thing, you can't go with "they're asking for it" by seeking international support of their arguments peacefully.

The PA knows that it achieves absolutely nothing toward a level diplomatic playing field with this move. It's an empty gesture. Just like holding back PA tax money.

What the fuck. No.

Any step that solidifies international support for the PA is a big deal. It's Israel + US + US's bitches vs whoever they can find. "Whoever they can find" just officially became most of the UN.

Effectively shutting down the PA's ability to function and costing thousands of jobs, now that's an "empty gesture" if I've ever seen one...

[ringthree]

West Bank isn't controlled by Hamas, they're controlled by the Palestinian Authority, and they're a bit less...terrorist-y over there.

Better economic conditions, Jordan doesn't let them import arms, most distinct Palestinian governmental control, traditional holy sites, etc. There are lots of factors.

As for punishing the West Bank, I am sure that Israel would love to split the West Bank from Gaza. Punishing the West Bank for actions taken on Gaza is probably a means to move in that direction. The situation between the West Bank and Gaza is kind of like a fight between a husband and wife. They will fight about anything, but as soon as someone external comes in to judge, they will circle the wagons and defend each other. So, punishing the West Bank for Gaza's actions are pretty counter-productive.

[ringthree]

This line of reasoning is completely invalid in relation to political maneuvering. Launching rockets and shit is one thing, you can't go with "they're asking for it" by seeking international support of their arguments peacefully.




What the fuck. No.

Any step that solidifies international support for the PA is a big deal. It's Israel + US + US's bitches vs whoever they can find. "Whoever they can find" just officially became most of the UN.

Effectively shutting down the PA's ability to function and costing thousands of jobs, now that's an "empty gesture" if I've ever seen one...

The PA didn't really get any more support. They just got a vote. The overall support did not change. It accomplishes nothing for the PA in any substantive way. But it is an action that Israel has stated would have consequences. You can say that Israel "shouldn't" punish them, but this is about international relations, kids. There is no running to mommy and saying that Israel is being unfair.

The PA made a political move that keeps their victim status, and to Israel, it proves they aren't interested in peace. Israel punishes them, the PA gets to whine about it, and the actual Palestinian people suffer more. No one gives a fuck about the Palestinians, certainly not Israel, but not the PA either.

[Rhinox]

What was the name of the resident BG Zionist that was living in jersey? The DJ iirc

[kuronosan]

I don't know but ring has fucking lost it.

Edit: djghost?

[Churchill]

No, he was some douche who went back and served in the IDF and talked about Krav Maga and how Israel never does anything wrong etc.

[tyven]

Church have you ever been krav maga'd or are your skillz superior?

[Churchill]

The closest thing it would be likened to is Arwrology.

[Dimmauk]

Church have you ever been krav maga'd or are your skillz superior?

Does someone need a marine to be choked?

[Correction]

No, he was some douche who went back and served in the IDF and talked about Krav Maga and how Israel never does anything wrong etc.

Meat. I've already forgotten his old username.

[Kuya]

Residue.

Anyway, recent events seem to show that Israel's issue is not with violent forms of resistance, but it seems to want no resistance at all.