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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    No, I don't suppose any nation that was born in the crucible of WW2 would have a particularly pleasant history, before after or during. It's a shame, really. I actually agree with the general concept behind Zionism- that Jews need a nation to call their own, to prevent another Jewish Holocaust, among other things- but it's been so poorly executed it's hard for me to say I agree with it in practice.
    Because let's treat a religion as a race. And then also, xenophobic races are just the tops.

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    they can have south dakota, no one is using it.

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    They can have any of the states trying to secede from the union. Nothing of value would be lost if they blew each other up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    No, I don't suppose any nation that was born in the crucible of WW2 would have a particularly pleasant history, before after or during. It's a shame, really. I actually agree with the general concept behind Zionism- that Jews need a nation to call their own, to prevent another Jewish Holocaust, among other things- but it's been so poorly executed it's hard for me to say I agree with it in practice.
    Why in the world does anyone, much less a religion, need a nation to call their own?

    No race, creed, or whateverthefuckidentifier needs their own turf. They need to stop being divisive and live with other humans because they're humans.

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    because hitler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dotsudoku View Post
    Why in the world does anyone, much less a religion, need a nation to call their own?

    No race, creed, or whateverthefuckidentifier needs their own turf. They need to stop being divisive and live with other humans because they're humans.
    Betty White speaks truth, here. No seriously, didn't she take a bunch of shit for saying something pretty similar about Israel?

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    I think she's the one that said the Jewish people could have gone back to Europe since noone there was trying to kill them anymore and it was their home. Then all the jews reacted as if she told them to get put in ovens.

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    The entirety of Europe is an oven to my people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khajit View Post
    Semi shortened version is Zionist leaders encouraged immigration to Israel thanks to it being an "empty land"but there was no free land since people never stopped living there. Then they bribed some people for unfair laws to steal land from people with ownership in the family dating back over 3000 years. A few other cases of obvious bribery. A bunch of Nazi jews gangs(not a contradiction. they actually had worked for hitler during WW2) committed terror attacks all over the place. Immigration is closed since there isn't enough room for all these people anyway so they do more terror attacks to help the people relocate to Palestine. More terrorist attacks by jewish people everywhere.

    Then they (Zionists)declare the 50/50 solution where they should get half the land despite only having 10% of the population at best after decades of forced immigration including the bloody Holocaust going on. Palestinians somehow think that idea isn't fair. Zionists then commit mass genocide and decide to take the whole place to themselves. UN tells them to stop the mass murder. They keep on doing mass murder. UN begs them to stop mass murder. They keep on doing mass murder. UN offers to make them officially a nation of Israel if they stop committing mass murder. Zionists take the deal and do more mass murder. And that's how Israel was formed.

    There are alot more details to fill in but that's the general gist for you and none of them are particularly flattering to Zionism anyway.
    man I love liberal foxism

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    If no one needs a nation to call their own, then let's just abolish nations altogether. Why not? No one needs them. We should lead by example and abolish the Constitution, then dissolve our armed forces.

    Every other large religion has at least one nation in which it is not the minority, or at the very least, an approximate equal to the majority. There's probably exceptions (there usually are) but given the intense persecution faced by Jews in the past (Beyond even the Holocaust), it makes sense to try to ensure such a thing never happens again. Particularly since antisemitism is so widespread among even Western nations. It's not a matter of segregation, as you seem to be implying. It's a matter of being able to stand up for yourself. No Western nation is going to allow Jews (or anyone else) to form armed militias in their countries, and even if they did, such militias could not easily project their strength to protect their fellows around the world. A nation overcomes both of those obstacles.

    In concept, it's a wonderful idea. It was executed so poorly that in practice it's not. Parts of North America (Dakotas, as mentioned, or parts of Canada- all sparsely populated) would have been far better choices, imo, but they lacked the "Omg holy land!" allure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quannum View Post
    they can have south dakota, no one is using it.
    They already have Florida.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaneTheBrawler View Post
    Particularly since antisemitism is so widespread among even Western nations.
    No, no it's fucking not, shut your mouth. Jews as a group are no more discriminated against than any other group in the world, let alone the god damn Western nations, their biggest allies. You seem to be confusing "critical of Israel" as antisemitism, which is exactly how they always try to spin it.

    Let's not forget that Jews are the most powerful group in the United States lol.

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    30 posts for Plow to put Israel's dick in his mouth

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    rofl

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazmaz View Post
    No, no it's fucking not, shut your mouth. Jews as a group are no more discriminated against than any other group in the world, let alone the god damn Western nations, their biggest allies. You seem to be confusing "critical of Israel" as antisemitism, which is exactly how they always try to spin it.

    Let's not forget that Jews are the most powerful group in the United States lol.
    I started out by refuting your points, but then I realized nothing you said was true, and that you surely must be trolling.

    Because I, as a white Christian male who grew up in a middle income family, have certainly not been discriminated against nearly as much as any given Jew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazmaz View Post
    No, no it's fucking not, shut your mouth. Jews as a group are no more discriminated against than any other group in the world, let alone the god damn Western nations, their biggest allies. You seem to be confusing "critical of Israel" as antisemitism, which is exactly how they always try to spin it.

    Let's not forget that Jews are the most powerful group in the United States lol.
    YOURE RETARDED JEWS AREN'T DESCRIMINATED AGAINST

    THE JEWS ARE RUNNING AMERICA

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    Making a run at full Celeste, he has a shot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill View Post
    30 posts for Plow to put Israel's dick in his mouth
    You imply it's not always in there. Or did you mean 29 posts until he has to breathe and then the 30th it goes back in?

    As for the increasing antisemitism in European nations? I vaguely remember that actually being true. It was mostly because Israel did such a good job of trying to conflate hate for Israel as hate against Jews that people in Spain started coming to the conclusion that Jews were evil people who wanted to murder innocent people for having the wrong race/religion. Not everyone is intelligent enough to be able to separate the two and as such Israel's actions are actually a growing source of antisemitism.

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    man, you guys are hilariously easily offended by being called out on hypocrisy

    at least I don't have to spell it out for you anymore though, it's nice that at least you're fully aware

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    Plow seems to be doing that thing where you act retarded then try to claim mental superiority while still acting retarded because trying to comprehend that much stupidity can get confusing to anyone trying to take it at face value.
    WHy do you have black people in your sig? Dont you realize that Israel is for the white man only? You should be taking notes and yelling at them to get back to africa.
    http://mondoweiss.net/2012/06/80-ref...white-man.html

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