Israel/Palstine War - Twitter edition

**Cleveland_7795** · 2012-11-16 16:30

Originally Posted by Blubbartron

Did the guy die or just lose his internet connection? Either way, that's probably the most poignant way to explain the bullshit that Israel is doing. "Wah wah, I'm so scared of shitty little rockets that harm practically no one." Meanwhile in Gaza, bombs are exploding every 25 seconds.

No one? Tell that to the 3 people who were killed just yesterday from the harmless rockets.

**Salodin** · 2012-11-16 16:49

This thread goes around in so many circles, can we just lock it for 3 years like a time capsule and reopen it in 2015 to redo the same convo?

**Churchill** · 2012-11-16 16:50

No, I enjoy pissing off people taking Israel's cumshots.

**Blubbartron** · 2012-11-16 17:15

Originally Posted by Cleveland_7795

No one? Tell that to the 3 people who were killed just yesterday from the harmless rockets.

Hence the qualifier "practically". In comparison to Israel's retaliation, 3 people is a pittance.

**Kuya** · 2012-11-16 17:28

Originally Posted by Khajit

A CNN "fair and balanced" discussion of of the current situation using a palestinian and an Israeli showing off his 5 kids and elderly parents for sympathy is interrupted by the Palestinian side being bombed thusly ending the debate.
http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/video-...eli-bombs.html
Not sure how to embed this since it's not a youtube vid.
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoft...eshay-intv.cnn

Poetic

It isn't exactly easy to play the victim card when the guy you're having an argument with is having bombs explode right outside his own home.

**Correction** · 2012-11-16 17:55

Gaza about an hour ago
Israeli foreign minister Avigdor Lieberman, in an interview with Israel's channel 10, hinted at a ground operation in Gaza but said it would not attempt to "topple Hamas":

"We are definitely considering a ground operation, but toppling Hamas, I think that's something that the next government will have to decide," he said.

They don't even want to remove Hamas, they still need a boogeyman to justify further dead civilians.

**Plow** · 2012-11-17 00:51

Palestine has shot about 150 rockets at Israel in the last 24 hours.

Israel's version of congress has approved activation/mobilization of about 75,000 troops. Tanks are lining up at the border.

2 big quotes from powerful Israelis/spokespersons:

"We will not stop until Hamas is begging for a cease fire."

and

"We are sticking to the air currently, military targets, but if we have to we will go into Gaza and clean up the mess."

so... hey, it's still 2012!

**Plow** · 2012-11-17 00:54

oh, and they've only been able to intercept about 1/4-1/3 of the rockets

Demosthenes11 · 2012-11-17 03:26

how in the fuck do you even "intercept" a motherfucking rocket?

modern technology is amazing

**BaneTheBrawler** · 2012-11-17 04:04

with smaller, faster rockets. Or radar-linked guns. Or mothafuckin lasers. The U.S. has, or at least had, some anti-missile planes with nose lasers that do this. pretty much the entire inside of the plane (747 size) is devoted to generating the power for it. zap zap

it is indeed.

**Apelila** · 2012-11-17 04:32

Originally Posted by Pirian

Meh, the only way people will be satisfied is if we respect all borders and there is no longer a conflict around such borders. I have a better solution -- no borders! Instead of living in a world that is looking for what makes us different, we need a world that recognizes our commonalities. But yeah, we're hundred of years (probably thousands) away from that, if we ever get to it

Now now, if the internet stays the way it is for another 10 years there is a good chance one of the generations will break the cycle of ignorance. That's what happened with the Arab spring. Sure they're re-electing the same type of government right now; but they're now finding out about how so much of their world view is shaped by people who have a vast, vested interest in keeping that world view ignorant, that they're not focused on the fact the type of government is what oppressed them, but rather the current people in the government who are.

If the governments current started a regional war now, all hell would break loose. he biggest player in the region is Saudi Arabia, and they want nothing to do with that mess because they're making money hand over fist off the west.

Iraq can barely hold itself together. Trying to step outside of their own borders right now would end what peace thereis.
Iran is almost at north Korea levels of food shortages. Paying for the bombs would be like using baby powered explosives, it would cause a revolt among the people feeling the pinch now knowing that the government is forcing the fight and not some magical foreign power on the other side of the world.
We all know Syria's position.
Eygpt would be the same way if they hadn't gone first. Libya is still recovering from their government transition.
Turkey doesn't care.

It's just Palenstine Vs Isreal in this one if it happens, and if anyone else joins in then that whole country could collapse.

tl;dr - unless the Interent becomes vastly more censored outside of America than it was during the Arab spring, in a few years all hell will break loose in the middle east with a war & civil war afterwards, if nukes aren't involved.

**Mazmaz** · 2012-11-17 05:05

Anonymous takes down over 650 Israeli sites, wipes databases, leaks email addresses and passwords

**Churchill** · 2012-11-17 05:43

Their follow up post to being called terrorists by the blogosphere/news:

Greetings from Anonymous,

It has come to our attention that conservative and pro-Israeli groups throughout the blogosphere have taken advantage of Operation Israel, attempting to solidify public opinion against Anonymous.

TheOtherMcCain.com posted an editorial this morning which stated the following: "If you ever doubted that Anonymous was a terrorist organization, they have now removed all reason for doubt." The article only contained 55 words of original content by the site itself, the other 90 percent of the article was selected quotations by mainstream media sources.

Let us once again be perfectly clear: Anonymous does not in any way support the use of violence. Anonymous is a world wide collective of individuals whose means pursue human rights, justice, and universal equality for the citizens of every nation.

Pro-Israeli groups throughout the world have grown from a foundation of Israeli/US propaganda and lies. They arbitrarily dismiss the apartheid system of racial segregation and oppression imposed by the Israeli government on the Palestinian people. The fact of the matter is, in the eyes of the media, only the United States and it's allies are capable of labeling another state or organization as a terrorists. Throughout our campaign, we've been inundated with one response in particular; references to Hamas hiding in school buildings or using women and children as human shields. Selective memory seems to have given pro-Israeli organizations the ability to forget that in 2005 Israeli Defence Minister Shaul Mofaz appeared in court to defend the practice of using Palestinians as human shields in combat after a supreme court outlawed the practice, noting it violated International Law.

The reasons for Anonymous intervention through #OpIsrael should be abundantly clear: What is happening in Palestine is oppression. They have no navy, no army, or air force. There is no war in Gaza. There is only the continuous application of military force by Israel in an attempt to push every last person out of the Palestinian state, despite international laws that make these efforts illegal. This illegal expansion of territory by Israel in to the Palestinian state has been ongoing since1948, making refugees of over 700,000 Palestinians. Today, Palestinians are not permitted to live in Israeli settlements, drive on Israeli roads or even travel is the “security” areas surrounding them. These Israeli only housing developments are being built on stolen land, even while being called illegal settlements by the International Court of Justice.

The violence inflicted upon the civilian residents of Gaza is well documented, despite the fact that Israel has adamantly opposed intervention by human rights organizations and the IDF constantly blocks and harasses international journalists.

Despite these facts, Anonymous has not used any anti-Semitic language during our campaign. Nor have we vocalized any support for Palestinian military operations or resistance groups. Our goal was to protect the rights of Palestinian people who are threatened with silence as Israel has made attempts to shut down cell phone and internet service throughout Gaza. We know what happens to victims of oppression when the lights go dark.

It is also worthy to note, that as of yesterday, members of Anonymous participating in #OpIsrael were making attempts to augment our Gaza Care Package for civilians in Tel Aviv by translating the same documents in to Hebrew in the event that they lose access to internet service as well. We do not racially or geographically differentiate between victims of violence or oppression anywhere in the world.

Both Palestinians and Israelis need to find common ground and end the violence that has already resulted in the deaths of innocent people, including children. Israel's advancement on Palestinian Territories and the racist oppression of Palestinian people needs to end.

We are not terrorists. Governments that fund wars, practice deceit against their own citizens, condone corruption, and turn a blind eye to the deaths of innocent people are terrorists. The word terror does not belong to Israel or the United States. We will judge you by your actions.

Peace and Freedom to all,

#OpIsrael
#Anonymous

Anonymous Gaza Care Package: http://www.mediafire.com/?hpnne29xvx1ceuv
#OpIsrael Information and Tools: http://www.anonpaste.me/anonpaste2/i...DE7qaf55tRIBY=

**Mazmaz** · 2012-11-17 05:54

source?

**Churchill** · 2012-11-17 05:57

He wanted to remain anonymous.

**Mazmaz** · 2012-11-17 06:02

Well I meant where was this posted so I could link it...

**Karasu** · 2012-11-17 09:56

Originally Posted by Demosthenes11

how in the fuck do you even "intercept" a motherfucking rocket?

modern technology is amazing

Like this.

(Say what you want about Israel, but that is a pretty neat system.)

Though I prefer the America Fuck Yea! version. (Spoiler for off topic)

Spoiler: show