Official global alpha start date: November 28th.

**Lucavi** · 2012-11-27 14:57

Good luck to everyone.

The more BG testers (white knights and all!), the better.

**Ratatapa** · 2012-11-27 15:36

fuck the haters pre 1.19 was the best FF game EVA

**Niiro** · 2012-11-27 16:52

Word, I wanna see Kaeko vids of him THM soloing CC/AV like he did with BLM and salvage back in the day.

**Rionel** · 2012-11-27 16:56

I can only imagine the treasure trove of testing to be done once 2.0 gets more finalized now that you mention Kaeko.

Gotta love testings!

**Niiro** · 2012-11-27 17:16

Don't even know if Kaeko still follows XIV tbh, I certainly hope so because god knows his tests have always been invaluable.

Also if he does them I don't have to... -_-

**Aratharn** · 2012-11-27 17:46

Think he's busy with (med?) school now.

**Patriarch** · 2012-11-27 17:49

If I get a code.. would I be able to let, for example, someone on here use it? I don't have the time right now to invest in playing XIV with work, etc. Was hoping I could let someone use beta time if they could actually be productive and use it.

or are the beta emails just for those accounts, etc?

**xopher** · 2012-11-27 17:49

You don't get a code. They enable your account for testing.

**Patriarch** · 2012-11-27 18:09

Originally Posted by xopher

You don't get a code. They enable your account for testing.

Very well, thanks.

**Kelenae** · 2012-11-27 18:50

Good luck... we are all counting on you...

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2012-11-27 19:09

Originally Posted by Ratatapa

fuck the haters pre 1.19 was the best FF game EVA

I honestly felt that, if the UI and server lag weren't such utter garbage, the stamina gauge, manual attacks, and freeform classes could have had potential if they weren't scrapped. I mean, it wasn't really that fun in its current form but that's what updates should be fixing.

Consider Sentinel and Rampart. I believe in the old stamina system these costed like 1/3 of a bar apiece but Rampart was complete trash since it only lasted a few seconds. Jump forward to current stats and Sentinel is short-term, high damage resist, long timer and Rampart is vice-versa (simplified example). With stamina, you can do more interesting things than just "longer cooldown", imo. Such as:

Sentinel - No stamina cost, same recast it has now. "Oh shit" button potential
Rampart - Small stamina cost (like a basic attack) and either recast is reduced or effect lasts longer

No point in whining further though :/ Seems we're on the track to "standard modern-day MMORPG". For better or worse. Hopefully better.

**shidobu** · 2012-11-27 19:10

lol you guys are funny

**Grey Jorildyn** · 2012-11-27 19:11

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

I honestly felt that, if the UI and server lag weren't such utter garbage, the stamina gauge, manual attacks, and freeform classes could have had potential if they weren't scrapped. I mean, it wasn't really that fun in its current form but that's what updates should be fixing.

No point in whining further though :/ Seems we're on the track to "standard modern-day MMORPG". For better or worse. Hopefully better.

Totally agree. It had potential but was implemented so poorly that said potential was overshadowed.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2012-11-27 19:17

I mean, it was silly tanking Great Buffalo on Archer. But I did it. That was the most fun I ever had with this game.

**Madeline** · 2012-11-27 19:37

Ahh the days of Dodore and GB THM soloing

I miss that broken ass game. I bought +2/3s and shit just to be baller and have an easier time tanking stuff for people on what was supposed to be a mage class.

I can honestly say the most fun I had was either soloing Hotbox Goblinguy or tanking BD raptor parties. Emulate/Contagion4lyf. Nothing funnier than seeing GB run around under his own hate reset status.

edit for nostalgia bomb:

Spoiler: show

**Alkar** · 2012-11-27 19:57

I don't miss that game one bit. Bring on the better version.

**Deuce** · 2012-11-27 20:07

Originally Posted by Alkar

I don't miss that game one bit. Bring on the better version.

This. 1.0 was fundamentally flawed on so many levels that I find it hard to believe anyone thought it had potential.

**Grey Jorildyn** · 2012-11-27 20:24

I was referring specifically to the stamina bar concept, manual attacking. The class system was just bad in general. I felt it could have been worked with, but the job system should have replaced it, not be build over the top of it. Hard to explain how I feel really. I can't hardly recall now anyway.

**Deuce** · 2012-11-27 20:28

Ah well I'd have to agree then. The stamina bar system was probably the only thing I enjoyed about 1.0 at the beginning. It was an interesting mechanic for an MMO. Manual attacking certainly could have been better. As for the job system I too wish they'd of scrapped it, but we'll just have to see what Yoshida decides to do with it in the future. However, I hope it doesn't come back to bite the game in the ass in the future.

**Seravi Edalborez** · 2012-11-27 20:34

I like the original concept of classes (but the execution, like many other things, sucked). I like the traditional concept of jobs (but laying it over classes sucks/is awkward).

I like Stamina because I think there can be better ways to design around an ability set than just MP/TP and cooldowns. Adding a third dimension (stamina) opens some possibilities. It's just another resource to manage. Like ammo. Copypasting from an edit I made earlier:

Originally Posted by Seravi Edalborez

Consider Sentinel and Rampart. I believe in the old stamina system these costed like 1/3 of a bar apiece but Rampart was complete trash since it only lasted a few seconds. Jump forward to current stats and Sentinel is short-term, high damage resist, long timer and Rampart is vice-versa (simplified example). With stamina, you can do more interesting things than just "longer cooldown", imo. Such as:

Sentinel - No stamina cost, same recast it has now. "Oh shit" button potential
Rampart - Small stamina cost (like a basic attack) and either recast is reduced or effect lasts longer

And this is just a crappy example with 2 similar abilities. You could even keep auto-attack and have stamina be solely for skills.

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