U.S. Fiscal Cliff

**Tyche** · 2013-01-02 20:19

As someone else said, she looks like she's aged 20 years in the last 4. And the other issues. Maybe I have a jaded view.

**Melena** · 2013-01-02 20:22

Originally Posted by Guyverarmor

Pretty much what Ronin said. Nothing short of dying will keep her from being the candidate. It will be hard for the GOP to top Romney in terms of "foot in mouth, stupid shit done and said" for next election...well Rick Santorum could top him.

Sadly, there is some good candidates from the republicans but all of them have some "taint" for not being far right enough. I'd have voted for Huntsman over Obama but how dare a republican take a post from an elected democrat. Supposedly Jeb Bush has some brains and isn't far right bat shit insane but has the Bush Taint and would be run out immediately by the left after the cesspool W. left us.

**ronin sparthos** · 2013-01-02 20:23

You guys forget John McCain beat cancer before his run for president?

**Tyche** · 2013-01-02 20:27

But he survived wartime torture. or something like that.

Then again, Hilldog had to endure a Bill Clinton presidency.

**Kuya** · 2013-01-02 20:29

Worse still, she had to endure Bill.

**Qalbert** · 2013-01-02 20:29

bush taint, lol

**ronin sparthos** · 2013-01-02 20:33

Originally Posted by Melena

Sadly, there is some good candidates from the republicans but all of them have some "taint" for not being far right enough. I'd have voted for Huntsman over Obama but how dare a republican take a post from an elected democrat. Supposedly Jeb Bush has some brains and isn't far right bat shit insane but has the Bush Taint and would be run out immediately by the left after the cesspool W. left us.

Don't worry, Marco Rubio is batting for the Republicans in 2016. All the Hispanics will have no choice but to lay down their arms and vote one of their own in.

**Kuya** · 2013-01-02 20:35

Just like all blacks have no choice but to lay down their arms and vote for one of their own.

**ronin sparthos** · 2013-01-02 20:38

Originally Posted by Kuya

Just like all blacks have no choice but to lay down their arms and vote for one of their own.

90% Hispanic turnout for Republicans coming to an election near you.

**ronin sparthos** · 2013-01-02 20:40

Also, a breakdown of the Sandy Relief Bill:

https://data.taxpayer.net/dataset/FY...nate/v9cs-jqe5

**Niiro** · 2013-01-02 20:48

Originally Posted by ronin sparthos

You guys forget John McCain beat cancer before his run for president?

Yea...how did that go again?

As qualified as she may be and as neat.jpg as it would be to see the color and gender barriers in the presidency broken back-to-back, I can't imagine her wanting to put up with such massive amounts of bullshit at this point in her life. I don't see it getting any "better" by 2016, the races are just going to get more ridiculous and absurd in our lifetimes (hope I'm wrong but not betting on it).

If she has it in her to run then great, I just hope it's because she wants to and not out of an obligation to the party.

**Kuya** · 2013-01-02 20:54

If any woman in the US is gonna wana run for president while being 80 years old it's Hillary.

**kuronosan** · 2013-01-02 22:47

Hillary has a blood clot problem so unless she walks around with coumadin or a heparin drip she isn't presidenting anyone.

**Salodin** · 2013-01-02 23:06

Originally Posted by kuronosan

Hillary has a blood clot problem so unless she walks around with coumadin or a heparin drip she isn't presidenting anyone.

Fdr had a leg problem and that didn't stop him.

**Tyche** · 2013-01-03 00:48

Originally Posted by Kuya

Just like all blacks have no choice but to lay down their arms and vote for one of their own.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the black vote for Kerry was 90% or something. Let's not act like the blacks were some historically republican group.

**Tyche** · 2013-01-03 00:48

Originally Posted by Salodin

Fdr had a leg problem and that didn't stop him.

Paralysis is a bit easier to manage than throwing a clot on the stump.

**kuronosan** · 2013-01-03 01:27

Originally Posted by Salodin

Fdr had a leg problem and that didn't stop him.

FDR was crippled from polio, he wasn't in danger of developing DVT or having a stroke.

**Talint** · 2013-01-03 02:24

Disregard that, I suck cocks.

I'm trying to find out what was in the Sandy Relief Bill, and why it was such a problem the republicans killed it.

**Tarage** · 2013-01-03 04:14

According to what I've read, it had a lot of attachments to it. People's pet projects rather than "Hey, give these guys some fucking money and let's be done with it."

Then again, riders are a problem with everything.

**Cantih** · 2013-01-03 04:18

Originally Posted by kuronosan

FDR was crippled from polio, he wasn't in danger of developing DVT or having a stroke.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fdr#Las...h_and_memorial

The president's attending cardiologist, Dr. Howard Bruenn, diagnosed a massive cerebral hemorrhage (stroke).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19640570

patients reported 9.6 hours bedridden per day or 14.3 hours wheelchair-bound
...
DVT was found in 58 patients (43.9%)

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