Another Middle East Crisis, Syrian Special "WMD"

[Melena]

I hope somebody changes your title.

Why? He already cried over the current one he has.

[archibaldcrane]

requesting title change

to what, you dumb canuck?

[BaneTheBrawler]

that sounds like an excellent title for maz, archi. good idea.

[Kuya]

i think he meant changing the thread's title to obama's kubayashi maru.

[Rhinox]

Kuya no

[archibaldcrane]

I almost feel bad for heaping insults on Mazmaz now

almost

[Acevalefor]

I almost feel bad for heaping insults on Mazmaz now

almost

You should feel bad. insulting Maz is like laughing at the autistic kid when he starts slamming his head into the wall.

Ok, now I feel bad.

[Outlaw]

From NBC news site:

By Richard Engel, Chief Foreign Correspondent, NBC News

News Analysis

America’s expected “limited” strikes in Syria could push the country into an even more dangerous and unpredictable downward spiral or even an international crisis, but doing nothing may be unconscionable and has consequences of its own.

Iran says a U.S. strike in Syria will result in disaster in the region.

Syria's foreign minister promised the Syrian military would defend against an attack in ways that will “surprise” the world.

Israel said it is putting its missile defenses, including the Iron Dome and Arrow systems, on their highest state of alert.

Hezbollah is fighting hand in glove with the Syrian regime. The group has tens of thousands of rockets just across Israel’s northern border. It could fire them if it fears it's losing its ally.

In Syria, rebels hope foreign military intervention will be just enough to make the regime wobble. They say they’ll be ready with their own offensive to push the regime over the rest of the way.

So what happens in Syria, and around the Middle East in the hours and days after a military strike? A lot depends on how far the United States goes to destabilize President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

The ‘do nothing’ option
At this point, doing nothing doesn’t sound likely.

If the United States doesn’t respond, as Secretary of State John Kerry suggested Monday, where is the world’s humanity and morality?

Imagine living in the Damascus suburbs now. How would Americans feel if they had just been attacked by gas-filled bombs that choked to death hundreds, including many children, in their beds, and a stronger nation with the power to punish those responsible said, "Sorry, it’s not my problem, but we do feel bad for you"?

Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said, “We remember the ancient principle of the sages, ‘If we are not for ourselves, who is for us?’”

The ‘do little’ option
The United States could launch a symbolic strike, destroying a few arms depots and runways, but that would not significantly change the balance of power in the Syrian war.

Such a strike from the U.S. and a few partner nations would very likely be coupled with strident warnings from American officials, most likely President Barack Obama personally, saying that if chemical weapons were ever used again, there would be greater punishment next time. But can threats after a weak action be taken seriously?

Syrian rebels, and anyone else who opposes President Assad, would be disappointed and demoralized. They would say the United States is afraid of Syria and wants to keep Assad in power. They would say Assad used chemical weapons and only got a slap on the wrist.

They would ask, "How much more suffering do we have to endure before someone helps us?" They would feel truly isolated from the world. Radical groups would have a stronger case to make to Syrians that only al-Qaeda and extremist Islam can protect them.

President Assad could only conclude that he got away with using weapons of mass destruction.

The war would continue. More Syrians would die. Al-Qaeda could grow stronger. And Bashar al-Assad would remain in power.

The do a ‘little more’ option
Rebels would certainly be encouraged by strong U.S. military strikes, especially if they carry on through two to three days. The strikes could help the rebels advance.

But they could also create a false optimism, a belief that the regime is collapsing when in fact it is not. The rebels could throw themselves into battle, hoping their time to finish off Assad had arrived, only to discover that the regime is much stronger than they anticipated, and suffer enormous losses in the days and weeks after an attack.

I’m reminded of Iraqis in 1991. The United States encouraged Iraqis to rise up after Saddam Hussein's army was driven out of Kuwait. Washington assumed Saddam was weak after losing the 1991 Gulf War. Iraqis rose up, but Saddam's troops killed thousands – Iraqis say tens of thousands -- in a counter-offensive.

The do ‘a lot’ option
If the United States -- most likely with other countries including Turkey, France and Britain -- attacks military targets in Syria in a major way, it could knock the weakened Syrian regime off its last legs. The regime now is heavily dependent on Hezbollah and Iran to keep the war going. Most of the government’s attacks are launched from a distance, by missiles and helicopters. The army rarely sends in troops for face-to-face combat. Resupply is a problem. So is the risk of defection.

If the Syrian regime starts to collapse, the fighting could get very intense. Assad, in desperation, could use more chemical weapons. The regime could decide to fight to its last breath. We could enter a phase of battles more horrific than any yet seen in the Syrian war.

Syria could break into regions, some controlled by Alawites loyal to the military and the Assad family, others controlled by Kurds, and still more run by Sunni rebel factions, including the al-Qaeda linked "Islamic State," which is rapidly replacing the Nusra Front as the most powerful radical group in Syria.

There could be ethnic and sectarian fighting. In this scenario, the regime would break apart as heavy fighting rages. The United States would have to hope that its ally in Syria, the Free Syrian Army, would prevail amid the chaos.

Internationally, Iran seems unlikely to risk a confrontation, but Hezbollah, fearing the loss of its regional ally, could decide to play for public support in the Arab world by attacking Israel. Israel would respond. Lebanon would suffer major losses.

If Syria collapses completely, the United States and the world would have to consider who, and what, fills the vacuum.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2...e-us-goes?lite

[Callisto]

and this is why the US is in an impossible position

[chazzyphizzle]

but no matter the outcome, it will be obama's fault

[Moss]

breaking:

Syria Conflict Intensifies

Spoiler: show

http://o.onionstatic.com/images/23/2...l/700.jpg?0261

[Callisto]

r u syrias

[Byrthnoth]

breaking:

Syria Conflict Intensifies

Spoiler: show

http://o.onionstatic.com/images/23/2...l/700.jpg?0261

lol. I need to set The Onion as my homepage instead of Google News.

[BaneTheBrawler]

better yet, someone needs to make it so google news only shows onion articles

[kuronosan]

You should feel bad. insulting Maz is like laughing at the autistic kid when he starts slamming his head into the wall.

Ok, now I feel bad.

It's okay, it's only internet autism.

[Mazmaz]

YEA

[Azull]

breaking:

Syria Conflict Intensifies

Spoiler: show

http://o.onionstatic.com/images/23/2...l/700.jpg?0261

I see the Russians have gotten involved.

[Outlaw]

It might not be a joke for long.

Interfax quoted a source in the armed forces' general staff as saying Russia, Syria's most powerful ally, was deploying a missile cruiser from the Black Sea Fleet and a large anti-submarine ship from the Northern Fleet in the "coming days".

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...97S0AK20130829

[Andalusian girls]

loloz yeah Russia's going to start a world war over Syria

[BaneTheBrawler]

welp, hopefully the U.S. survives WW3 intact, otherwise i'm boned. post-apocalyptic survival is kinda difficult when you starve to death without advanced medication.