E3 2013

[GoggleHead]

Does no one care about preserving games at all? It really wouldn't bother you to never be able to go back and play your favorite games again?

[Deuce]

I too will buy cross-platform games on Ps4.

Pretty much this.

Also, GDDR5 vs GDDR3, with the former being $100 less. Need I say more?

[aurik]

I too will buy cross-platform games on Ps4.

I'll buy cross-platform games on the platform that becomes the de-facto internal dev platform, because that one will always be less buggy / better performing. Alternatively, I will buy it on the platform my friends have so we can play online.

[shidobu]

If 500 dollars is a lot to you you probably shouldn't be buying any console anyway

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[Deader2818]

Does no one care about preserving games at all? It really wouldn't bother you to never be able to go back and play your favorite games again?

I care and that is really the root of the problem with this buy people want to act like the root is because people are to poor to afford internet and to buy new games.

[BadKarma]

I too will buy cross-platform games on Ps4.

Just wish I could use Xbox controllers on playstation. Tiny fucking controllers man

[aurik]

Does no one care about preserving games at all? It really wouldn't bother you to never be able to go back and play your favorite games again?

What makes you think you won't be able to?

[aurik]

Pretty much this.

Also, GDDR5 vs GDDR3, with the former being $100 less. Need I say more?

The comparison between GDDR5 and GDDR3 isn't as simple as A is better than B in all cases.

[Deader2818]

What makes you think you won't be able to?

If they take the servers down when the next gen comes out or simply don't want you to have access to a game anymore, they can take away your rights to that game.

What happens if you get banned from Live? You lose every game you bought?

[Ker]

Does no one care about preserving games at all? It really wouldn't bother you to never be able to go back and play your favorite games again?

I do. I recently replayed Eternal Darkness and Luigi's Mansion.

[GoggleHead]

What makes you think you won't be able to?

Authentication servers will go offline for good. It's just a matter of when. It sets up a whole generation's library for having a finite shelf life.

[CaptainN]

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This is no different than on PS3, for example when capcom added an always online DRM to bionic commando rearmed 2. We still good here, come aboard the PS4 train.

[BadKarma]

If they take the servers down when the next gen comes out or simply don't want you to have access to a game anymore, they can take away your rights to that game.

What happens if you get banned from Live? You lose every game you bought?

I too can speculate.

There's life on other planets.

[Minions]

On DRM:

Anecdotally, releasing on PC without DRM leads to upwards of 90% piracy rates (source: World of Goo, Game Dev Tycoon, etc--it's an experiment that has been performed often). You can argue that the lion's share of those people wouldn't buy it anyway, but the truth of the matter is that a non-trivial amount of those people, given the choice of not playing it or paying for it, will pay for it.

If you have a 10:1 pirate-authentic ratio, you only need to convert 1 in 20 pirates to see a 50% increase in revenue. Given that almost all your costs in making a game are sunk by the time you are on shelves, a huge amount of that revenue is profit. (I know people will argue that publishers will just pocket the extra money and turn out the same tripe, so if you are about to make that argument stop and go read up on capitalism)

All of a sudden, you can afford to spend a lot more on making a game, and sell it at the same price. That leads to an increase in game quality. Alternatively, it may lead to a decrease in game cost if publishers decide to compete on cost rather than content/quality.

These companies would be better off taking donations than charging for their games. Charging for games means Google/Apple/???/Their Publishers take the lions part of all the money they make. Adding a simple donation button would allow you to download the game(s) where ever you wanted and have the actual creators of the content get the money directly without it being reduced by 70%+.

Until devs start doing this they will always get substantially less money than they could.

I donate to devs all the time, especially if I was given software or music by a friend. I generally do not purchase games/music without trying the games from a friend or otherwise first. Sony has remedied this by having 1 hour demos on the PS store... which I hope they start requiring for every game they put on the store when the PS4 comes out... or at least a 1 hour stream of games on gaikai before you buy.

[aurik]

If they take the servers down when the next gen comes out or simply don't want you to have access to a game anymore, they can take away your rights to that game.

What happens if you get banned from Live? You lose every game you bought?

Those are hypotheticals that I seriously doubt will ever come to pass.

[Weltall]

Those are hypotheticals that I seriously doubt will ever come to pass.

You missed the other "end of the world" scenarios some people thought was bright to bring up...

[aurik]

Authentication servers will go offline for good. It's just a matter of when. It sets up a whole generation's library for having a finite shelf life.

Let's say the cost of running the authentication server is like $10,000 per year. For a million dollars, which is chump change, they can keep the server running for 100 years. I don't foresee this being a problem.

[Tyrath]

I too can speculate.

There's life on other planets.

You've been saying this to every single Xbox rumor and speculation, see how those turned out.

[Kalmado]

You've been saying this to every single Xbox rumor and speculation, see how those turned out.

He doesn't care he's buying both.

[Seraph]

The comparison between GDDR5 and GDDR3 isn't as simple as A is better than B in all cases.

I would love an explanation to this...