12/12/12 Version Update - .DAT Mining Discussion

[NynJa]

Why does SE bother making new TP bodies for jobs that can wear Thaumas? lol

[Limlight]

5 minutes to 90 seconds I believe. And only in salvage right now.

only in salvage? boy did I missread that I was doing up a new group set up for us.

[dasva]

Why does SE bother making new TP bodies for jobs that can wear Thaumas? lol

Well if they had thrown on QA/TA/DA onto that dw body and made that dw 10 then I'd be hooraying. As is I'm like oooooh bother

[Ophannus]

Ares sets seem meh for DRG. Hard to beat the STP+Haste combo of Phorcys Head/Legs. The body/feet/hands are sidegrades to Phorcys for WS. Could shift some things around to optimize possibly but nothing would be a drastic boost for DRG. The new 99 accessories seem meh...str+6 acc+3 on a ring and some other random sidegrades. Nice that you can make geodes through gardening and 1hour recast for all 2hour abilities is iceing.

[Pebe]

Speaking of NNI everyone finish your sets now while embrava still isn't nerfed there. Got increased max floor jump, full benefit embrava, AND cheaper astraium costs if you can't reach 100.

[Yugl]

Lol wtf?

: Changed Attribute Description- "DEF:63 DEX+15 AGI+15 Accuracy+7 Evasion+7 Increases critical hit damage Set: Increases rate of critical hits" changed to "DEF:63 DEX+15 AGI+15 Accuracy+7 Evasion+7 Increases critical hit damage D6147"

[Jem]

Fairly certain some of the Skadi pieces, or rather Sigyn, are good for relic RNG's.

Those upgraded Ares/Kers pieces potentially open up some more options for DRK's. Will have to check it out properly rather than a cursory scan.

[Dominico]

From what I can see... not as crappy as Neo Limbus, but not as good as NNI. For the jobs I use, at least. Maybe I'll come back from Blops2 to do Salvage with the Canadian. Maybe.

[Mahoro]

WHM's will want Marduk's Tiara +1 which adds that all-important cure pot 11% on head, which allows for certain ideal sets and is FREE compared to Iaso Mitra!

SMN's will want Nabu's Tiara for magical pact builds.

That Marduk Jubbah +1 will be a great idle piece on SMN ASSUMING the Refresh is +2 (which based on Manusa Chasuble might be likely).

Other Marduk/Nabu pieces seem well-suited for BRD, melee mages, enfeebling sets, etc. Have to sit down and compare later when I'm not at work.

[pchan]

Omadaka completely sucks for MNK.

Full usukane +1 is 6.5% LESS damage than current max gear.
The best combo I could built is

usukane somen +1 with current gear : thaumas body/nomkahpa mittens/AF3+2/AF3+2
with is 0.32% better than what we have under the conditions I chose.

All this seems to be a giant failure.

[Cream Soda]

Unless another piece of armor is slipping my mind, usu head+1 for mnk?

[Pebe]

As for Skadi +1 for Cor:

Head beats Thaumas for Last Stand
Hands beat Thaumas for Last Stand (idr my ws hands atm though so there might be something better)
Body is third best Last Stand piece in terms of damage: New Abjuration body +1 with ws dmg >>>>>> Tessario Saio >> Skadi +1 .... HOWEVER Skadi +1 has a good amount of racc which cor suffers on harder content. So Skadi +1 will probably outdo tessario Saio on harder stuff imo since their agl and RA are pretty close.

Edit: I'm stupid Sigyn Hands (the other new piece) over skadi +1 hands

[NynJa]

From what I can see... not as crappy as Neo Limbus, but not as good as NNI. For the jobs I use, at least. Maybe I'll come back from Blops2 to do Salvage with the Canadian. Maybe.

No Salvage nawbs!

[Taruking]

Why did they remove the Haste from Skadi legs...

Because Sigyn's legs replaces the old Skadi legs (I think)

Legs: DEF:51 DEX+8 CHR+8 Accuracy+10 "Store TP"+5 Haste+5%

Unless the set bonuses are godly a lot of ppl are going to be disappointed :/

[Mahoro]

Omadaka completely sucks for MNK.

Full usukane +1 is 6.5% LESS damage than current max gear.
The best combo I could built is

usukane somen +1 with current gear : thaumas body/nomkahpa mittens/AF3+2/AF3+2
with is 0.32% better than what we have under the conditions I chose.

All this seems to be a giant failure.

Like the fortune cookie game where people add "in bed" to the end of every fortune, your posts should always end with "for MNK." At least this one started with it!

[Churchill]

Omadaka completely sucks for MNK.

Full usukane +1 is 6.5% LESS damage than current max gear.
The best combo I could built is

usukane somen +1 with current gear : thaumas body/nomkahpa mittens/AF3+2/AF3+2
with is 0.32% better than what we have under the conditions I chose.

All this seems to be a giant failure.

Delicious.

For the most part, this gear isn't replacing anything that you aren't already wearing (salvage gears) or were maybe wearing 1-2 iterations of gear ago (pre-NNI basically). There are some gems, but overall it is fairly disappointing.

[noodles355]

Fairly certain some of the Skadi pieces, or rather Sigyn, are good for relic RNG's.

Those upgraded Ares/Kers pieces potentially open up some more options for DRK's. Will have to check it out properly rather than a cursory scan.

I'd say Skadi Head +1 for JCoro. Sigyn's Hands for Coro/Last Stand. Maybe Sigyn Feet for Coro. Maybe Skadi Body +1 for Coro too if in sweet spot.

[Kincard]

For Ninja, Usukane Sune-Ate +1 beat Iga Kyahan +2 despite the lost of a haste percentage, and Omodaka hands is obviously an accuracy sidegrade. Other than that it all looks pretty pointless. Pretty disappointing. I was hoping for at least one slot to get Dual Wield+, but that got stuck onto Skadi Body, and I don't think any of those jobs are going to bother with that thing anyway.

[Pebe]

The Marduk Jubbah +1 is good macro piece to replace Anhur robe in your precast summoning set. That is what I'd use it for. And who knows, Fast Cast might be greater than 10%

[Taruking]

Full usukane +1 is 6.5% LESS damage than current max gear.
The best combo I could built is

All this seems to be a giant failure.

Set bonus included?