Things Broken By 12/12/12 Update (Clipper questions go here)

[Lior]

just saw a post on the windower forums regarding these Buff ID issues.
reason why i could not use a ws was that sc recognizes am3 as amnesia...
can only hope they fix this soon

Actual Buff / statustimer display
sphere=sirvente
Hasso = enstone
Relic AM =Charm
AM1 = Charm
AM2 = Doom
AM3 = Amnesia
solace = Sprint
Misery = Enchantment
light arts = baraero
Addendum:White = Max MP down
Sekkanoki = magic shield
Seigan = Enthunder
celertiy = barsleep
dex boost(fenrir) = trance
blood rage = hum (wtf?)
Atma = Plague
Visitant = Mute

[Selamis]

So if one doesn't use spellcast, or recast, technically shouldn't have any issues with windower?

[Yugl]

Blinkmenot is funky too even without PS.

[Mairja]

just saw a post on the windower forums regarding these Buff ID issues.
reason why i could not use a ws was that sc recognizes am3 as amnesia...
can only hope they fix this soon

Even more confused after that list you quoted. I had no issues whatsoever during 12 Qilin fights, with auspice on, AM3, blood rage, hasso, sekkanoki was used once aswell. Is it totally random, as in can I still experience issues out of the blue, or am I safe? Shouldn't this in theory be affecting everybody using spellcast?

[Khrnos]

I'm guessing that you probably don't have the return rules in your spellcast, if you do then I'm not sure why it's not affecting you.

[Aureus]

Blinkmenot is funky too even without PS.

What's still wrong with it? It seemed to work for me and my testers.

[dasva]

Not sure if mention but occassionally I find myself dcing when I zone.

[Eastaran]

Not sure if mention but occassionally I find myself dcing when I zone.

Was a known issue with plasticsurgeon. If you're not using that then I don't know!

Since the update we have had 3-4 people dc'ing like crazy though. (Not including when Radec told us to //updateresources without checking them himself first.. leading to half the shell disappearing =P).

If not plasticsurgeon then I don't know!

[dasva]

Yeah right now this was with only a couple of plug ins loaded. Like I think only draw distance and tpparty

[Khrnos]

Yeah, I'm also having problems with dcing when zoning and I don't use plastic surgeon.

[Gun-it]

just saw a post on the windower forums regarding these Buff ID issues.
reason why i could not use a ws was that sc recognizes am3 as amnesia...
can only hope they fix this soon

So If I change my spellcast rules for hasso to enstone the rules would work?

[Karah]

So apradar fixed the mobs/pc errors but now the maps don't work?

[Byrthnoth]

After updating resources, //silence no longer makes my WHM cast Silence.

[Sekundes]

So If I change my spellcast rules for hasso to enstone the rules would work?

It's possible it could work but notice that some buffs change dependent on what buff slot they are in. ie it might still be hasso in slot 0 but in slot 1 it could be enstone. So it'd be safe to do both but there are many that cross problem lines due to the buffs they "THINK" they are and that it isn't always like that.

Martel and I are working on mapping out the buff ID's but it's somewhat difficult since they change sometimes and since we don't have all jobs.

[Sekundes]

Even more confused after that list you quoted. I had no issues whatsoever during 12 Qilin fights, with auspice on, AM3, blood rage, hasso, sekkanoki was used once aswell. Is it totally random, as in can I still experience issues out of the blue, or am I safe? Shouldn't this in theory be affecting everybody using spellcast?

Unless you have rules to change what your xml does based on buff active rules you won't have any issues. The only problem is that Spellcast can't always accurately know what buffs you have as the ID's have changed.

Also, since some don't always break depending on the slot, even if you did, you still might not have an issue. So if you use buff active rules for any of the items on that list, you may have a chance(fairly good one as most of them break on most buff slots) of having issues.

[Martel]

So If I change my spellcast rules for hasso to enstone the rules would work?

I actually tried this, and while it said Hasso was enstone, setting a rule to trigger an echo with buffactive=enstone did NOT work. Oddly enough, autoexec did react to AM2 registering as Doom. So some of these work as the salt buff they show as, and some don't. <,<;; It's really weird.

[dasva]

Is it just me or does it seem the main purpose of this update was to break 3rd party tools...?

[Buffy]

The windower team claims it would be very difficult, but if SE intentionally wanted to break windower, I'm sure they could. The chaos that would ensue would be amazing. I would also instantly un-sub, like others I'm sure.

[xIndustrialxAngelx]

Someone needs to jump on that plasticsurgeon fix, it's killing me!

[Rope]

A small part of me would find it hilarious. But to be honest, I'd probably quit and move onto something else if this game could only be played they want it to be played.

EDIT: I also find it hilarious that everyone is kicking and screaming about a fix for this, and a fix for that. The developers of all these plugins/hacks are working on a fix... Nothing you say will make it go any faster. It just makes you look like a retard because A) You're stating the obvious, B) You're too dumb to fix it yourself, and C) You're saying the same thing 40 people in front of you are saying.